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Sunday, July 13, 2014 Driftwood Outdoors: Making a strong statement Governor sends message with vetoes of captive deer bills Brandon Butler, outdoors columnist, bbutler@driftwoodoutdoors.com Sunday, July 13, 2014 Deer are wildlife, not livestock. Making a more obvious statement would be difficult. During Gov. Nixons announcement of his vetoes of SB 506 and HB 1326, which would reclassify captive deer as livestock, he proclaimed the reclassification of wildlife to livestock would violate the Missouri Constitution. Nixon said, White‐tailed deer are wildlife, and they are also a game animal. Putting them behind a fence does not change that fact. You would think violating our Constitution would be the end of these bills, but no. Certain legislators are declaring they will override the Governors vetoes and force control of captive deer on the Missouri Department of Agriculture, which has openly testified against the transfer. The Governor has stated the bills are unconstitutional and has vetoed them. The Missouri Department of Conservation doesnt want these bills to pass. The Missouri Department of Agriculture doesnt want these bills to pass. The Kansas City Star, St. Louis Post‐Dispatch, Jefferson City News Tribune, Poplar Bluff Daily American Republic and many more media sources across Missouri have denounced the bills. The Conservation Federation of Missouri, Quality Deer Management Association, Whitetails Unlimited, National Wild Turkey Federation, Mule Deer Foundation, National Wildlife Federation, Sierra Club and just about every other conservation organization you can name publicly opposes these bills. And most importantly, the vast majority of our states citizens, represented by an outpouring of letters, emails and phone calls to the Governors office, which was reported in an Associated Press article, dont want these bills to pass. So youre probably left scratching your head wondering why in the world were still talking about calling deer livestock. Why would legislators who are elected by the people and paid with public tax dollars focus any of their efforts on overriding unconstitutional legislation the vast majority of our states citizens are against? In a Poplar Bluff Daily American Republic article, Rep. Casey Guernsey said MDC had made him and other legislators mad, calling the department an example of bad government, so he was intent on fast‐tracking and passing this bill as a way, in no uncertain words, to punish them with a veto‐proof majority So because they are mad, some of your elected senators and representatives want to punish MDC by stripping their control of wildlife management so a few shooting ranches can continue to ship potentially diseased, drugged, out‐of‐state deer into fenced facilities where only the wealthiest can afford to pay tens‐ofthousands of dollars to kill genetically mutated livestock. Doesnt seem right, does it? And you know who really suffers? Not MDC, you. And everyone who believes wildlife is a public resource. It goes much deeper, though. If youre a sportsman, or just someone who enjoys nature, you may not realize just how incredibly fortunate you are to live in Missouri. The system of conservation governance we have here in our state is unique, and successful beyond the wildest dreams of most other states. In 1936, when forest, fish and wildlife were at all time lows, the people of Missouri made a bold statement by passing a constitutional amendment that took control of our states distraught natural resources away from the politicians who had propagated such decimation and placed the responsibility of conservation management with a citizen led Conservation Commission. Because the General Assembly does not have authority over MDC, these same mad legislators argue MDC is accountable to no one. Nothing could be further from the truth. MDC is accountable to everyone. For nearly 80 years, MDC has answered to citizens like you and me. The conservation‐minded Missourians who came before us fought to establish our unique and successful model of conservation governance. MDC continues to honor their legacy. In Missouri, wildlife scientists who have the necessary funding to do their jobs at the highest level manage conservation. The reason why our fish and wildlife thrive here is because politicians cant just hand out favors to their friends like a few of them are trying to do now. Most of our legislators are proud to live in a state with such an esteemed system of science‐based conservation management, and are happy to leave our world‐class system alone. Yet, a select few are hell‐bent on destroying what nearly 80 years of sound‐science and public resource management has built. I suggest you find out where your legislators stand. The few leading the fight to override the vetoes of SB 506 and HB 1326 are claiming MDC is infringing on the private property rights of high‐fence captive shooting facilities, because these farmers nurture and care for these animals. If you believe shipping a drugged deer from out‐of‐state to a fenced‐facility in a gooseneck trailer and then letting someone pay to shoot it is nurturing and caring, then we have vastly different definitions of those words. And if these politicians want to talk about private property rights, then what about the private property rights of the landowners who border or are in close proximity to these facilities? Their private property rights are at risk every time another out‐of‐state Missouri State Library Reference Services 19 of 29 Jefferson City News-Tribune ~ Sunday, July 13, 2014 deer is trucked into a facility, potentially bringing with it Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) or another deadly wildlife disease. Once CWD is passed through the fence onto a neighbors land, what do you think happens to that neighbors land value through no fault of their own? Should the private property rights of a single landowner override the private property rights of all their neighbors? Im not a lawyer, but I would think your private property rights end when they threaten the rights of everyone around you. Short‐sighted and cynical assaults like this are the very reason why the Conservation Commission must and shall remain a strong and independent custodian of our states time honored traditions and precious resources, Gov. Nixon said. The differences between the two sides of this entire captive cervid issue are many, but it essentially boils down to this. Those opposed are citizen conservationists passionate about wildlife and ethical hunting standards, who give selflessly in support of public resources. Those in favor are financially invested. Gov. Nixon said its time for conservation to stop playing defense and to go on offense. I echo his sentiment. If you have yet to engage in this fight, the time is now. Every Missouri conservationist must take action. Talk about this issue in your community. Write letters to your local newspapers. Contact your legislators, and insist your family and friends do the same. Tell your legislators pointedly you support the vetoes of SB 506 and HB 1326. See you down the trail
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Very well could have been.
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You don't need me. You boys have done very well on that account without me.
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Looks like a large chunk of his jaw is missing. Must have been gigged.
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cobblers/pies
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We stopped stemming Gooseberries years ago. The stem just cooks away and you never know they weren't stemmed.
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I have never heard of any restrictions either .
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That would be a Snoodie Foodie! No Miracle Whip? Ha! "Interesting" bread? Toast rounds ? Thought those used to be toast points? You kids today. To contribute, I keep it simple. Relatively speaking. Smoke trout. Flaked meat and add Miracle whip Onion Relish A chipotle sauce like Tabasco or other Salt and pepper. There are a million other odds and ends you can toss in there. Experiment and see what you like. If you don't like something, feed it to the cats. Head back to Taney and start over.
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Beware! Thieves On The Loose Again!
Chief Grey Bear replied to magicwormman's topic in Table Rock Lake
I didn't think you had a clue. We can now classify you as a low information voter. -
Beware! Thieves On The Loose Again!
Chief Grey Bear replied to magicwormman's topic in Table Rock Lake
Do you have a source, credible source, for all of your BS you spout or do you just make it up as you go? I want to see your source that states there are over 100 million unemployed Americans. Retired, incarcerated, and those under 18 and those in collage, and such don't count. -
You can see that blind by looking upstream from the highway. It doesn't look to me like it is on private property but I would probably try to seek out the owner of the blind. It sits right in the middle of a backwater section of Empire lake at Riverton.
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You're exactly right it could have all been avoided. By not drinking and operating a boat.
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I think he is agreeing with you and making his case
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That should be a bumper sticker and a sign mounted in a bait shop!
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I'll never get it right. I can't keep up with all the name changes. Now again what are the current names of the the Ned Rig 1/16, 3/32, and 1/8 oz versions??? I know one time it was just Neg Rig. With these huge differences In weight, these all have different names. And I can't remember what they were. And then we have to get into all of the different Texas Rigs!! Boy fishing is getting difficult!!!
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Is this what the forum turns to when you get bored talking about the Neg Rig?
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I'm not.
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Actually DW, we already had a lunch plan before you were involved. But once he found out you wanted to tag along he declined. He doesn't care to meet with you.
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Hey we're just a bunch of hillbillies! Don't go trying to change the Ozarkian language!
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Well see.....you are starting to come around. LOL!!
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Just for the record, he has gotten probably less than $500 of my money over the years. To me, his stores are great tourist attractions much like Steal Your Dollar City. I visit about once a year. Anytime you go in there, you can bet that 90%+ of the people are not from Springfield. And that is great for the City as cash will be dropped at other merchants too mainly food joints.
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Or you could make a no wake rule. It works real well on a lake or two I know of.
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Property Owners Vs Floaters And Anglers
Chief Grey Bear replied to Tim McDougald's topic in Meramec River
You gonna send it? -
Property Owners Vs Floaters And Anglers
Chief Grey Bear replied to Tim McDougald's topic in Meramec River
Not yet.
