Quillback

Made quite a few business trips to Provo and SLC in the past. Never fished the Provo river, but drove by it. My impression is that it was a nice looking stream with plenty of water to fish, but downside was that it has a busy road right alongside it through Provo canyon and lots of access. Always saw at least a few people fishing so I am sure it gets lots of pressure. Don't know the regs, but if there is a fly fishing only, catch and release section, that's where I'd fish.

Thanks for posting, sure looks like fun!

This is a good thread, no need for people to come in and snipe and jack it up.

It's not over deep water at all, maybe 4 feet deep off the end. My theory on why they are there is people power launching/loading stir up the sediment which brings in minnows ( I saw a bunch of minnow around the dock). No cover nearby either except for rocks on the bottom.

Those are very nice-looking baits - bet they would work for smallies too.

Got out at dawn again today, started right off throwing a jig, not much going on with it - I had one bass that grabbed it and immediately got hung up in a tree, couldn't get it out, line must have wrapped on something, had to break it off. Had another one pick it up and run towards the boat, hooked it just for a second, felt like a solid fish, but couldn't keep it pinned. There was no wind at all early and I kept seeing some scattered top water activity. Last time I fished I tried to match the hatch (small shad) and threw a Tiny Torpedo at them which they didn't like. Today I did the opposite and threw a 115 Evergreen Shower Blows, which is a big hunk of plastic. Put two 13-14 inch spots in the boat, had a couple of others get off, then they just stopped with the top water activity. Bounced the jig around and tried a shakey head, had a couple of bumps, but they weren't hanging on. Go back to the launch, tie up the boat, look in the water near the dock and see a couple of spots hanging out. Backed the trailer in, looked in the water and they were still there. I thought this was pretty bold of them, so I picked up a drop shot, tossed it out there, got one of them on the 2nd cast, another 13-14 inch spot. I get it up to the dock, and probably a half-dozen bass swim out from underneath the dock and start trying to grab the worm from the hooked bass's mouth. Every one of those fish was as big if not bigger than the one I had hooked, when I lifted the fish out of the water they all went back under the dock. Dangled the worm under the dock, but no takers. Caught two more spots casting off the dock and paralleling the bank with the drop shot. Guy pulled into the lot with a jet ski, so I had to get the boat out and the fun was over. If I could do today over, I would have started right away with the Evergreen SB and once the top water bite stopped, would've fished docks with the drop shot. Surface temp 80.

I think we are guessing here. I'll go 42 lbs. 9 oz.

Happy Birthday!

That is interesting, hope it works out for you.

About the best description I have is there is a peninsula that runs east from between Lost Bridge North and South. Big Hollow is a cove that is located on the east end of that peninsula on the cut that runs between there and the island - I don't know the name of that island.

I agree - there was a lot of controversy in Washington when that triploid rainbow was listed as the state record.

The Bella Vista lakes have a few grass carp in them, put in for weed control as JF states. Accidently snagged one once while fishing a jerk bait, guessing it weighed about 15 lbs. Nice looking, streamlined bodied fish.

I did see a bit of striper activity on top and there was a guide boat back in Indian for a bit.

There is a practical application, farm raised fish. One of the Indian tribes in Washington state was raising triploid rainbows in a net pen farming operation on one of the big impoundments up there (Rufus Woods lake). They grow faster than non-triploids so at one time the fish farmers were raising them - don't know if that is the case anymore - but some of them escaped from the net pen which led to one of them being caught and becoming the Washington state record rainbow trout. It was 29 lbs. I believe.

I don't know either, but the point was that if some of these triploids managed to spawn, it would be no different that if the non-triploid browns spawned. They (browns) do spawn below Bull Shoals dam.

Launched at dawn, cruised back into Indian creek and started to fish. Began with a buzz bait, only had one small bass take a swipe at it. There was some top water activity, scattered fish chasing shad and the shad are everywhere, shallow, deep, main channel, in the coves, there are a lot of small shad - should bode well for the future. I caught some very small spotted bass on a 1/4 oz Kastmaster throwing at the top water activity, but nothing sizeable. Switched up to throwing a 1/2 oz bluegill colored jig in the trees, lost a pretty good fish that I never saw and after working that jig for an hour or so, managed to catch a decent smallmouth. Only good fish I boated all morning. Checked out some gravel points, not much activity, and in general things really started slowing down after about 9 AM. I hung in there until 11 AM and then called it quits. Surface temp - 79

They are fish from the same hatchery as the "normal" browns, they aren't some special strain. In the unlikely possibility that they do spawn, it's the same as if the hatchery browns stocked in the river spawn. They aren't some kind of freaky genetic mutation.

Found this on the web. What is a Triploid Fish? In simple terms, a triploid fish is merely a fish that is sterile. Triploid fish have three sets of chromosomes, unlike a fertile fish that have two sets of chromosomes (a diploid fish). Triploids are common in many industries; Seedless watermelons are triploids, as are bananas. Triploids are also naturally occurring. A triploid fish is not a genetically modified organism. The genes of the fish have not been manipulated or changed in any way and do not result in the expression of any foreign or novel proteins or tissues. Triploid fish simply have 3 sets of chromosomes instead of 2 and for this reason are not able to reproduce, but are otherwise normal fish. Recent legislation codified in the Fish and Game Code describes the rational to use sterile fish for recreational purposes. These include the conservation of native fish genotypes (genetics) and the protection of endangered or threatened species. For these and other reasons the California Department of Fish and Wildlife is producing triploid trout eggs that hatch into fish, are raised, and ultimately result in sterilized trout released for recreational purposes. Triploid trout are created by forcing the egg to retain a chromosome that is normally ejected during egg development. There are many ways to do this; the California Department of Fish and Wildlife uses the pressure shock treatment method. As you can see in the graphic below, in fertilized trout eggs, normally a chromosome (N) is kicked out of the egg as a polar body at some stage of development. Using pressure treatment at a specific time in the egg development, the polar body and chromosome is retained. With 3 chromosomes the fish is sterile and cannot reproduce.

Elite series marshals PAY $100 to sit and watch the pro fish. As far as lodging I think they are on their own for that. MLF format is a little more involved as the marshals have to weigh each keeper andrecord it. Maybe MLF will pay them to do it, hard to say. So far it looks like MLF has been using the same marshals for their events, some of them are becoming part of the show. I am sure they have it figured out whatever happens.

I just remember reading that somewhere, but I could be wrong, or it could change. There has been some history built up in BASS over the years as far as AOY winners, tourney winners, etc., and that will change if a bunch of guys bolt over to MLF. Elite series won't be the same without KVD and a bunch of the other "names". Thinking of the names that are currently fishing MLF - KVD, Ike, Ish, Hackney, Wheeler, Amart, Duckett... I wonder if Watson will be part of it?

I thought I read somewhere that BASS would not allow anglers to fish both MLF and BASS. If that's true, BASS will lose a lot of it's top names. It will mess up our fantasy league also. 😰

Sounds interesting, and I like that it will be real time, and I bet the competitors will be updated on how the others are doing. MLF has been fun to watch, but I always wondered what it would be like if they are fishing for money, going to be a whole nother level of pressure on the anglers. Looking forward to seeing it.

Just for grins I've been checking out different tourney's rules on trolling - every one is different. Joe Bass does not mention trolling at all. Walleye guys are always complaining about those pesky bass eating their cranks - they should go fish Joe Bass.

Here's the BASS rule: . "An electric trolling motor may be used for slow maneuvering. However, trolling as a method of fishing is prohibited. The “Long-Lining” or “Strolling” technique is NOT allowed in either practice or competition and defined as intentionally using a trolling motor or outboard to mechanically extend a cast. No exceptions." FLW rule - Sounds like you can stand on your TM all day and drag your stuff around. "Trolling is defined as operating the combustion engine to extend a cast or lengthen a retrieve. "

Yeah I know someone that was a back seater to a guy who was trolling, whoops, I should say "dragging" a jig using the TM. They won and took home some money. Trolling was not allowed in this particular tourney. So I asked him about it and his response was that the front seater says he does it all the time, nothing wrong with it. But as Bo says, a rule that says "no trolling" is up to interpretation just as we see in this thread, lots of gray area there. If I was going to fish in a tourney where I was planning on using the boat to move the lure, I'd bring it up in the tourney meeting or if no meeting, I'd clear it with the director.