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It was just one theory. Could be a liability issue. Most lakes post no boats, no swimming. Who knows, more rules and regulations, no enforcement of existing ones that have a real impact on the game. It may just be urban lakes. I know the city lake managed by the MDC in Jackson has a no boat, no swim policy. Maybe someone skirted it with the float tube, half boat, half swimming.

I really don't know, just read about it in the weekly email. Could be some complaints from bank fishers competing with the float tubers. I have used kayaks and pontoon in local MDC Ponds with great success. Maybe they are too effective and MDC wants to control the use. I am pretty sure it was passed as a regulation looking at the wording. The Commission approved recommendations from the Regulations Committee to: Prohibit the use of float tubes at selected Department-owned lakes.

Buy all of them and sell them on Ebay.

At least I was not number 2!

Its been too dry around here, had to water the garden to get the lettuce to sprout. Maybe next week.

Yeah, I am member #3. Does it come with any rewards?

Watch for new regs on Conservation Areas, a weekly email update on the Conservation Monthly meeting stated that Float Tubes would be banned from some Conservation Areas. It did not go into any detail as to what areas/bodies of water. I don't have a tube, just an inflatable pontoon from the Creek Company. It is comfortable to fish from, a bitch to row in wind or current. I prefer my kayaks. MARCH CONSERVATION ACTION MEETING

Snagging is a family thing down there. I saw a whole bunch put in at the cabins below the park in a small jon boat. They stopped at the bend below the wastewater lagoons, get out and set up camp on the bank. The youngins tossed rocks to herd the fish and the adults started snagging. When I reported the activity at the park office, I was told it was perfectly legal as long as they released any trout they caught. I am sure they did. The whole trophy area has been an excellent place for poachers for years. I have taken license plates and turned a few in, don't know if anything ever became of it. One agent with alot of territory was the excuse I got. Only time I see an agent is in floating season, and then they target other offenses more than just game violations. Just another reason we need more enforcement, not laws. Of course, I know they are just hiding in the woods waiting for a violation and I never see them, right?

Nope, a coot, water snake, and a Green Water Snake. Zoom in on the head at the top of the main body coil and notice the round pupil. Cottonmouth would have a cat's eye pupil.

Been a great year so far for gardening. Came home from the Gunshop on Valentines Day, traditional day to plant a lettuce bed, and planted some lettuce. It came up last week. Dug up my Horseradish and replanted it last Monday before the last rain. Upper garden was dry enough to till so I did and planted some more lettuce. Today, main garden was dried out enough to till. Tilled everything under to let it rot. St. Patrick's Day is the traditional day to plant peas and taters. Worked up a section and planted some peas, early yellow squash, and a little sweet corn. Any one else underway with the garden yet?

It was designed to handle the recoil of the 22lr at the factory. There would be no options. Competitive shooters use lighter springs with lighter than industry standard average loads or hunters use heavier springs for more powerful loads in Centerfire Pistols. There really should be little variance in the power of factory 22lr, but there have been some lately that seem a little weaker. If it is a new pistol, it may take a few hundred rounds for the spring to set and really function to its best potential. I had a Walther P22 that did the same thing but the last time out at the range it finally started functioning right and feeding all loads perfect. It took about 300 rounds.

Try the Mini Mags and see what happens. Some Bulk Box ammo is weaker and will not cycle some autos. There may be another problem though.

Yes I do. I can usually cut a thumb sized limb with one 10 round mag from my Smith 22 LR.

This is so good, I had to pass it along. I hope it does not violate "NO POLITICS" policy. I know a few dyed in the wool Ron Paul supporters that are the most passive persons, far from domestic "terrorists". I never have been a big fan of "sticker people" that advertise on their vehicles either. Mo. report on militias, terrorists draws criticism Sunday, March 15, 2009 The Associated Press COLUMBIA, Mo. — A new document meant to help Missouri law enforcement agencies identify militia members or domestic terrorists has drawn criticism for some of the warning signs mentioned. The Feb. 20 report called "The Modern Militia Movement" mentions such red flags as political bumper stickers for third-party candidates, such as U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, who ran for president last year; talk of conspiracy theories, such as the plan for a superhighway linking Canada to Mexico; and possession of subversive literature. "It seems like they want to stifle political thought," said Roger Webb, president of the University of Missouri campus Libertarians. "There are a lot of third parties out there, and none of them express any violence. In fact, if you join the Libertarian Party, one of the things you sign in your membership application is that you don't support violence as a means to any ends." But state law enforcement officials said the report is being misinterpreted. Lt. John Hotz of the Missouri State Highway Patrol said the report comes from publicly available, trend data on militias. It was compiled by the Missouri Information Analysis Center, a "fusion center" in Jefferson City, Mo., that combines resources from the federal Department of Homeland Security and other agencies. The center, which opened in 2005, was set up to collect local intelligence to better combat terrorism and other criminal activity, he said. "All this is an educational thing," Hotz said of the report. "Troopers have been shot by members of groups, so it's our job to let law enforcement officers know what the trends are in the modern militia movement." But Tim Neal, a military veteran and delegate to last year's state GOP convention, said he was shocked by the report's contents. "I was going down the list and thinking, 'Check, that's me,'" he said. "I'm a Ron Paul supporter, check. I talk about the North American union, check. I've got the 'America: Freedom to Fascism' video loaned out to somebody right now. So that means I'm a domestic terrorist? Because I've got a video about the Federal Reserve?" Neal, who has a Ron Paul bumper sticker on his car, said the next time he is pulled over by a police officer, he won't know whether it's because he was speeding or because of his political views. "If a police officer is pulling me over with my family in the car and he sees a bumper sticker on my vehicle that has been specifically identified as one that an extremist would have in their vehicle, the guy is probably going to be pretty apprehensive and not thinking in a rational manner," Neal said. "And this guy's walking up to my vehicle with a gun." But Hotz said using factors in the report to determine whether someone could be a terrorist is not profiling. He said people who display signs or bumper stickers from third-party groups are not in danger of harassment from police. "It's giving the makeup of militia members and their political beliefs," Hotz said of the report. "It's not saying that everybody who supports these candidates is involved in a militia. It's not even saying that all militias are bad."

My 17 foot Grumman came from Wood's about 20 years ago, best $75 I ever spent. Map of 11 pt still resides on the bow of the boat.

Gun Sales are brisk, another fine day at the Missouri Gun and Knife Show. Something happened in Nov. and business is good.

Did I miss something? Gunshow weekend, out arming the masses and its mass confusions on here!

I thought this thread may be about the guy on the Saline Creek that uses a tractor and blade to gather crawdads for bait. I came across him one time with his crawdad gathering buddy grading one of my favorite smallmouth bass riffles. He commited a few violations, driving in a stream bed, instream gravel mining w/o permit.

2 weeks ago, Jackson MO, nutball comes up to Ameren UE workers at a substation and starts blasting with a shotgun, wounding 3. Turns gun on self later when stopped by police saving us some taxpayer dollars. Reason Unknown. Alabama, Psycho nut job roasts mom in house before going on shooting spree to kill family and then innocent bi-standers before killing himself. Police were unable to do it for him. Reason unknown, just snapped, somebody made fun of him. Looks like it may have been fully automatic rifle, something outlawed since 1964 to all citizens that do not pay a high transfer tax and go thru a background check by the FBI. No gun ban will stop an ILLEGAL WEAPON. How come nobody writes the headlines with the same wording as I do? With all the job loss, Depressing News Stories, gloom and doom everywhere, those on the edge will start snapping. Statistics show that with high unemployment comes alcohol and substance abuse, then a rise in domestic violence. Tempers flair. Hopelessness sets in with a loss of self preservation. It is a start of things to come. Those on meds or a short lease are going to blow. We will probably see more. Home burglaries and invasion is on the rise locally since last fall locally because persons are struggling to make ends meet. Aren't we lucky to have our hobbies to relieve our stress? Unless you fish a trout park, how can fishing really stress you out? If you hunt, nothing beats a good outing in the wild and bagging a good meal. Tying flies, making lures or rods, reloading a batch of ammo, or just getting out in the shop and going thru the fishing tackle or cleaning guns relieves stress. A day at the range blasting away at paper targets is a good stress reliever. Sure beats bottling it up! Watch out for the crazy's, keep your families and friends safe. Learn how to protect yourself, take a CCW course. Police officers usually show up after a crime begins, it is up to you to protect yourself. Be aware of your surroundings.

They are out over here in all but the rifle cartridges and shotshells. Did they have any Handgun cartridges or 223, 308? Buccheits Farm center is out of Bulk 22 lr here also along with most retailers of the country. CCI Stingers and Mini Mags are in abundance for 7 cents a round vs Federal or Remington Bulk which normally run 3 cents a round. 80 percent of my shooting is done with 22 lr, the kid shoots alot of it too. She received the same thing for her 13th bday last year as I did when I turned 13, a Ruger 10-22. I still hunt with mine and can shoot groups at 40 yards that can be covered with a nickle. I wonder how many thousands of rounds I have put thru mine. I even gave her one of my "hoarded" 30 round mags that were outlawed by the 1994 ban. Something happened early on this year with the bulk box 22, Wally did not have stacks of it sitting on the shelves and counter like they normally do in the summer and fall. Our suppliers have not had any bulk 22 or cheap 22 since November. I really don't know what the cause of the shortage of bulk 22 is unless factories are concentrating on the handgun cartridges and trying to produce the higher profit items.

Most will not get the new yaks in till April. Gander Mountain used to carry the Predators, Cabelas and BPS carry the Loon which is a non camo Predator. All PVC boats are going up, the Pamlico I bought 5 years ago for $399 is up to $699 now.

If it is closed to all activity during that time, it is probably a Waterfowl Refuge/Resting Area. No boating, hunting, or fishing during that time. 3/31 seems a little late in the year but it could be. Check the Corps of Engineer Website for details on that area for more info.

Just passing it along, a little gun history from another site. AN OPEN LETTER TO THE CURRENT GENERATION OF YOUNG AMERICANS..... IT IS NOT ONLY YOUR RIGHT, BUT ALSO YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN THE FREEDOMS THAT THOSE WHO HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED FOR SO THAT YOU TODAY CAN BE A FREE AMERICAN. NOT ONLY FOR YOUR SAKE BUT FOR YOUR CHILDRENS FUTURE ALSO. OUR GENERATION, THOSE OVER 45, CAN ONLY HOPE AND PRAY TO GOD ABOVE THAT OUR CURRENT GENERATION OF YOUNG AMERICANS "NEVER" WILLINGLY GIVE UP THEIR 2ND AMENDMENT RIGHT TO OWN AND BEAR ARMS. IF THEY EVER DO, THERE IS A REAL SERIOUS CHANCE THAT THEY WILL BE THE GENERATION THAT WILL BECOME THE SLAVES TO THE GOVERNMENT AGAIN. AND, THEY TO THEN WOULD HAVE TO FIGHT AGAIN TO "REGAIN" THEIR FREEDOM FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR CHILDREN. PRAY IT DOES NOT HAPPEN!!!!!!! PLEASE PASS THIS ALONG TO AS MANY PEOPLE YOU KNOW THAT MAY BE INTERESTED TOO IN KEEPING THEIR FREEDOM AS WE KNOW IT TODAY!! WHY? BECAUSE WE ARE "ALL" AMERICANS!! (I'LL BET YOU DIDN'T KNOW THIS!) A Little Gun History Lesson In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million 'educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million! It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars. The first year results are now in: Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)! In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. Note that while *the law-abiding inhabitants turned them in, the criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns! ** It will never happen here? I bet the Aussies said that* *too! ** While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed. There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns. The Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it. You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information. Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens. Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late! The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind him of this history lesson. **With Guns........ ...We are "able to defend ourselves". **Without Them........ We are "Subjects". During W.W.II the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED! Note: Admiral Yamamoto who crafted the attack on Pearl Harbor had attended Harvard U 1919-1921 & was Naval Attaché to the U. S. 1925-28. Most of our Navy was destroyed at Pearl Harbor & our Army had been deprived of funding & was ill prepared to defend the country. (By design of the world controlling elite to create another war) It was reported that when asked why Japan did not follow up the Pearl Harbor attack with an invasion of the U. S. Mainland, his reply was that he had lived in the U. S. & knew that almost all households had guns.

Where in the regs do you see that it would be illegal in the fly only zone. The rule does not call for one single point hook or one single fly, most seem to think that droppers are legal in Fly Only Zones. It simply states that the hook must be single point, no doubles or trebles. If you wanted to stretch the limits of the law, you could glue 3 flies together in a treble hook configuration and meet the regs. (D) Fly—An artificial lure constructed on a single-point hook, using any material except soft plastic bait and natural and scented bait as defined in (A) or ( above, that is tied, glued or otherwise permanently attached. (A) Natural and scented baits—A natural fish food such as bait fish, crayfish, frogs permitted as bait, grubs, insects, larvae, worms, salmon eggs, cheese, corn and other food substances not containing any ingredient to stupefy, injure or kill fish. Does not include flies or artificial lures. Includes dough bait, putty or paste-type bait, any substance designed to attract fish by taste or smell and any fly, lure or bait containing or used with such substances. ( Soft plastic bait (unscented)—Synthetic eggs, synthetic worms, synthetic grubs and soft plastic lures. Don't get me wrong, I read it the same way as you do and the Synthetic Legs are not allowed either. All how the agent perceives the law book. I could tye a jig with Sili Legs as a skirt and it would meet the spec.

I owned a K113 for a while, local fishing shop picked up some dealer specials. It was too big for what I wanted, kept getting stuck crossways in small streams. Other than that, paddled nice, comfortable, and was loaded with extras. I wish I would have bought the K111 instead. The hull was a little squirrelly in whitecaps on the duck lake, no keel, no spray skirt. It kinda spooked me on the duck lake. Would do well in calm shallow water.