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I heard one theory today, the blackbirds are not used to migrating at night, got disorientated and flew into the ground. AFGC weekly today reported on both incidents, still investigating, no leads. Seems like there were a few white bass and other species in the fish kill.

If you have a problem with "any" animal bothering your livestock, you are to contact your local Agent and figure out what to do. Birds of Prey and Migratory Birds have limited control measures as do Endangered Species. One of the reasons that the Mountain Lion had been removed from endangered to extirpated. If a lion starts targeting livestock, it has to be killed, and the powers that be realize that. I have a friend in a northern state that has a problem with Bald Eagles taking the fawns out of his tame deer herd in the spring. He has been authorized to do what is needed to protect his herd.

Blackbirds plucked their eyes out. Or maybe the saw the new Oparah show.

Could be low water or lack of production at the Bennett Hatchery, don't know. Take a trip to the hatchery and strike up a conversation with one of the hatchery guys or the manager. They will probably explain what is going on.

Good effort, no reason to charge him for anything according to Greybear unless he comes up with other code violations. Check your Wildlife Code Book to verify, mine was issued March 1 2010. Please note, we did this without any name calling.

Never mind, I googled it and found lots of answers. The Drum bit the dust first. Blackbirds in BeeBe was the next day. LA was hit on Mon. Hard to blame the weather on this one. The birds demise... What killed the birds. The fishes demise, best guess... Drum Kill Of course, The Mayans May Have Something to DO with IT... Mayans Still, the firework dilema. Is the south trying to outlaw fireworks for some reason?? LA has mass kill Could it be something as simple as overpopulation?

I always Sauger fished in Pickwick Lake, part of the Tennessee River System in TN. May be too far to drive. Walleye, the sauger's larger kin should be found near Mtn. Home.

It has been almost a week now, anyone heard any new news on this strange happening?

I don't know for sure on Niagua and what the Bennett Hatchery stocks, but the Montauk Hatchery which supplies fish for the Eastern Ozarks only stocks rivers March thru Oct, once a month. They do sometimes do a midwinter stock in the Eleven Point in Dec.

Even though they catch and release, the addition number of fishermen seem to wise up the fish making them harder to catch. And of course, there is the water quality issues from the gravel pit to the lower flows due to droughts the past 10 years. Unfortunately, nothing is never as good as the one great trip you had on there one time years ago.

I assume you are talking about the narrow width, long boats. They should do fine on any Ozark water you can run an alum jet. The former owner of what is now 11 Point Canoe in Alton used to run the river in a Fiberglass jon with a jet, it worked fine.

And that list is?? Start listing them numerically please.

Organized cattle farms artificially inseminate and control the drop time now. Most family farms do as Beeson stated. We controlled ours by separating the bull and controlling them in that manner and our cows usually calved in Feb and March. If a cow did not take, it spent time with a bull and calved at a different time from the rest. Calving usually timed out right for the calves to reach the best size for market the following spring when prices peaked out. There were times in the snow, we lost a few calves to coyotes years ago. The solution, let some professional coyote hunters hunt your farm. Pumping the lions stomach would not prove much. Guilty by association should be good enough to qualify the landowner in protection of his property. If there were charges, I think they would have shown up by now. As far as the 22 lr is concerned, the article starts with coon hounds with something up a tree. Would you be expecting to have a one in a thousand encounter with a mtn. lion or assume it is a coon or possum? It is furbearer season, he was probably a coon hunter since he owned coon hounds, and the weapon you are allowed to use to dispatch the furbearer is a 22 lr. A head shot on anything with a 22 is usually lethal. It is the weapon of choice when the local meat processor came to butcher a beef for us on the farm. Cats usually wilt pretty easy when shot, they are not tough like bears or coyotes.

As a farmer, our herd is only insured for liability in case they get out and damage others or property, not for replacement value. A cow here and there would not be worth a claim. I am sure there is a possibility that he was insured for replacement value, but why bother, 10 cents did the job. How long do you think the cat would have stayed in that tree? And, what could have happened if that cat came out of the tree in a bad mood? His prize coon hounds could have been worth more than a cow for that matter.

Don't forget the added pressure when it was highlighted in an article years ago and all of the increased fishing tourists in the area. I used to fish it back in the 80's, had a few nice trips. We would always hit it in the summer when Norfork was pumping too hard to wade. No bigger than it is, increased fishing pressure was probably the hardest thing on it. Plus, it is a sinking creek, the water tables have changed and the flows seem to be lower than before.

I doubt it, Arkansas does not use that much electricity. They still use candles and wood stoves.

Did you see any mention of tickets, charges, or wrongdoing? Did you see how this article included the regulations regarding protection of the personal property unlike the first.

If a pedophile moves in next door, would you let your kids go play with him? He seems like a nice guy and has lots of candy. Yeah, he could have been there stalking deer and the farmer thought his cows may be endangered, mistaken identity, sterotyping. But would you want to risk a few hundred dollars of your hard earned money and be wrong? The law of averages makes the mountain lion guilty by association. One lost calf is like someone stealing your favorite top dollar fly rod while you are not looking. You would want to prosecute the thief. But the thief in this case will never pay restitution in a monetary means.

Cattleman kills mountain lion in Ray County Bob Littleton has a big cat story that few Missourians can tell. Conservation Agent Tammy Pierson said Littleton went to one of his pastures Sunday night after coon hounds treed a mountain lion where his cattle were grazing. He killed the mountain lion (Felis concolor) with a shot to the head from a .22-cal. rifle. Littleton reported the incident as required by law. Pierson collected the mountain lion this morning and sent it to the Missouri Department of Conservation Resource Science Center in Columbia, where resource scientists examined it this afternoon. Ray County is located just north of the Missouri River east of Kearney, near Kansas City. The most well-known Ray County town is Excelsior Springs. Conservation Department furbearer biologist Jeff Beringer said the mountain lion weighed 115.2 pounds and measured a little over 6.5 feet from nose to tip of tail. The sharp edges of the cat’s teeth and faint barring on the insides of its legs indicate it was a young male, probably three years or younger. Beringer said laboratory tests will provide more detailed information about the cat’s age and genetic makeup. Conservation officials say the mountain lion showed no sign of having been held in captivity. “We removed a small premolar tooth that will be sectioned so we can count the annual growth rings,” said Beringer. “That will tell us exactly how old it was. DNA testing will tell us whether it was related to native mountain lions in states to the west of Missouri, or if it is more closely related to mountain lions from somewhere else – possibly captive animals.” Northwestern Nebraska is the closest place to western Missouri with an established mountain lion population. Beringer said nothing about of the Ray County mountain lion led him to believe it had been held in captivity. It had no tattoos or electronic identification tags – customary ways of marking captive cats. Its skin and paws showed no sign of having lived in a concrete-floored enclosure, and it still had dewclaws, which often are surgically removed in captive animals to prevent injury. The Ray County cat is Missouri’s 12th confirmed mountain lion sighting since 1994. Most of the mountain lions whose bodies have been recovered have been young males. Young males are the most mobile mountain lions. They typically leave their birth areas to establish new territories, Finding young males is consistent with the idea that most Missouri cats do not originate here. Beringer said there is no evidence of mountain lion reproduction in Missouri to date. The Missouri Conservation Commission reclassified the species from “endangered” to “extirpated” in 2006, based on such lack of evidence of a self-sustaining population. Current Commission policy says that re-establishment of a sustainable mountain lion population in Missouri is not desirable, due to the potential for conflict with human activities. Missouri’s Wildlife Code protects mountain lions, but the Wildlife Code also allows the killing of any mountain lion that attacks or kills livestock or domestic animals or threatens human safety. People who kill mountain lions must report the incident to MDC immediately and turn over the intact carcass, including the pelt, within 24 hours.

The hypoxia was what I was thinking since everything in SEMO was iced up last week, but was wondering why only the drum, but they may be the only fish in that stretch.

I see, the Zebra Mussels ganged up on them and forced them out of the water? Or was it the poison built up in the mussels that the drum ate that killed them? Or did they get a bad mussel, get a bad case of gas and were propelled out onto the bank where they died of exposure? Do fish fart?

The trout kinda rules out the St. Francois.

Interesting thoughts on the God theory, I am sure some on here will consider 2011 the end of the world. Maybe this is one of the first in a series of plagues that will signal the end of time. Instead of locusts, it is redwing blackbirds. Anyone have any more info on the fish kill? What would target drum and nothing else?

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