Bman Posted February 14, 2011 Posted February 14, 2011 This topic brings to mind stories of the old Taney “chute” fishermen. If a newbie to the chute got out of sync and threw a cast across their line, they would smile, untangle the lines/flies and keep on fishing. The second time you would get your flies cut off, and handed back to you. The third time, you got your fly LINE cut off and handed to ya. Any of you Taney old timers ever heard about this? I’ve been tempted to pull the cut the line routine on a few that have waded out into my drift, and put me right in their back cast to the point where I’m dodging and ducking their hooks. One such time I put my hand up to protect my face and took a streamer hook in my hand past the barb. The only good line is a tight line
Rolan Duffield Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 These type problems have been around for many, many years. Back in the old days when fishing Bennett you could generally find good water to fish any day. Even so, some people just want to horn in if you're catching fish. Some of the old timers had a solution for that. They carried a weighted wooley with the curve of the hook sharpened to a sharp edge. Whenever someone tried to invade them they just tied on this wooley and proceeded to cut the line of the intruder when they made a cast in the spot they were fishing. The invaders soon learned to keep their distance.
troutfiend1985 Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 It's unfortunate that this type of stuff happens. But the best thing to do is either address it or move. Addressing it doesn't mean that you have to be abrasive about it, you could just say hey, I was fishing here, I appreciate that you guys want to fish also but could you give me some space please? I've actually done that, and while awkward it did work. Usually jerks don't like to be confronted in a manner that is not abrasive, and I've had pretty good luck in these situations. If that doesn't work, then there is always more river. Bman, I guarantee you that cutting someone’s fly line won't produce the results that you desire. That might have worked in past generations but today you'd be as likely to find that guy waiting for you in the parking lot. I really hate it when guys do this crowding thing, but you just can't provoke the guy. I would think that in this situation the goal would be to not make yourself look like a jerk in the process of pointing out someone else’s flaws. “The greatest menace to freedom is an inert people” J. Brandeis
Stoneroller Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 a permissive attitude towards other people's stupidity only perpetuates said ignorance. if you see some jackass doing something stupid, TELL THEM!! at the very least, POINT and LAUGH. Fish On Kayak Adventures, LLC. Supreme Commander 'The Dude' of Kayak fishing www.fishonkayakadventures.com fishonkayakadventures@yahoo.com
Bman Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 Bman, I guarantee you that cutting someone’s fly line won't produce the results that you desire. I said tempted. jjtroutbum, on 14 February 2011 - 12:54 AM, said: "I will admit getting all upset and going off many years ago about crowding and general rudeness. Now I just try not too allow someones behavior that I have absolutely no control over to dictate how my day is going to be. By getting myself in a terrible frame of mind." As I said earlier, this is the attitude I try to practice. The only good line is a tight line
snagged in outlet 3 Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 I'm going to put this out there. I've seen Bennett and Taney actually have too many people for the amount of area fished. I mean when there are 150 people in the upper end around Thanksgiving there is no way NOT to crowd in. Same at Bennett in the prime months. Sometimes there are just too many people using the area. Also, if you are fishing the rebar chute and think nobody will wade in and start shuffling right in the middle you are living in dreamland. It's gonna happen. Not that you can't voice you opinion, but it's gonna happen. Pete
troutfiend1985 Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 I wonder if a rotation system would work. I've heard about them before where there is crowded angling and people get 30-45 minutes per place then rotate. “The greatest menace to freedom is an inert people” J. Brandeis
XP 590 Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 That is a shame that the trout park mentality sets in at Taney. I fish the trout parks and understand their limitations, but I was also at Taney Sunday from 7:00 am to 6:30 that night. There were more people than I've ever seen there, but there is still plenty of room to avoid this kind of rude crowding. It's just bad manners no matter how you look at it. *** Now this is just my opinion, but people with manners that bad don't usually get it, even if you club them with a sledgehammer (metaphorically speaking...of course). If they did get it, they wouldn't be crowding in the first place.
Gavin Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 Dont let em ruin your day...or fish elsewhere...Frankly, I'd rather float, fish & have fun with a crowd of my own choosing vs. the pot luck you get at the tailwater/troutparks & crowded lakes. Cheers.
Members Newbie Fly Posted February 15, 2011 Members Posted February 15, 2011 I was at Taney Sunday and while it was not quite as bad as that fellows experience I guess one should expect a bit of crowding at the Rebar hole as its productive and folks without experience can catch fish there and not have any luck anywhere else But one thing we did experience was the migration crowding to a spot me an my buddy were fishing and more than once. Below the #2 outlet in this one spot in the deeper middle at the start of one run/hole there are these three rocks aligned in this weird pattern that when I can see it like to fish it . Well I start fishing it, no one close by, I pick up some fish The wind stopped enough for a bit so i could see it was still holding fish . Well I see this bigger fish and try targeting just him. Not the greatest I am struggling to get the right drift in the right spot . So I call my buddy over much more accomplished than me and he fishes from the other side of hole as he can put his cast where it needs to be, facing me as the sun glare was blocking his sight line and I am spotting for him Well we cant get him to take, but we are constantly picking up fish Before you know it we each have someone above us and below us and he even has a foot shuffler behind him . Well like I said not the most accomplished I fouled up my double rig and need a retie and wouldn't you know it the guy below my moves even closer to me and once his fly line got caught up on my rod tip tucked under my arm during the retie I just bit my tongue but he says "well your not fishing right now" My buddy says to me don' t let any of these fools see what fly your using as they are undeserving. We got fed up and decided during the middle of day let's just get in the car and go futher downstream for solitude instead of fish numbers Well late afternoon we come back its starting to twlight there's some splishin and splash... time to try some other things So my buddy starts swinging soft hackles and having some success mostly at the end during the dangle.... So I set up about maybe 10-15 yards below the dangle and start swingin buggers and little leechs. Wouldn't u know it walking along the shore here he comes with his buddy He says to his buddy " look I have been watching, they are catching fish, lets fish here!!!!! UGHHHH!!!!!! Maybe that is what they think , sight fishing means!?!#!@#! " I fish therefore I am"
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