Poop In The Water!

[fishinwrench]

The DNR has a five year study monitoring ecoli for Lake of the Ozarks. It has some great information on it. http://dnr.mo.gov/loz/index.html

FROM THE LINK....

This study is a five-year cooperative effort led by the DNR and LOWA, which provided trained volunteers to collect water samples. Each year approximately 15 coves are sampled monthly. The intent is to sample from Bagnell Dam to Truman Dam over the five-year period. The volunteers collect samples monthly from May through October each year. Samples are analyzed by the DNR laboratory, where they are tested using methods approved by the EPA. All samples are analyzed for E. coli. Costs for the water testing run about $15,000 annually.

"Trained Volunteers", .... trained how, WHEN and WHERE to get the samples.

"Samples tested using methods approved by EPA", .... How many METHODS are there, and which ones are not APPROVED?

"All samples are tested for e-coli ", ..... ONLY !

"Cost for the water testing run 15,000.00 annually", .... Thank Dog for VOLUNTEERS hu?

[fishinwrench]

IMO the only legitamate testing being done are the ones being done on the water at the public beaches....cuz they gotta COVER THEIR ASSES.

Last year they said the water quality at the beaches was bad because of excessive runoff and goose poop. Well they got the geese under control, and its been a long time since we had a good rain...... yet PB2 beach has been closed dang near all year I think., hasn't it?

The Gov said he wouldn't rest until water quality had noticably improved here, and that there would be ZERO TOLERANCE of systems not in compliance, ..... Every case I am aware of has been, or will be thrown out of court. So I guess I took the word ZERO out of context when that statement was made.

Nobody can clean this lake up, it is what it is.... I just have ZERO TOLERANCE for the brainwashing BS associated with it. The lake is foul. (by many folks standards) but it still has a purpose (by many folks standards) and can still be enjoyed ( by some folks).

[Guest csfishinfool]

IMO the only legitamate testing being done are the ones being done on the water at the public beaches....cuz they gotta COVER THEIR ASSES.

Last year they said the water quality at the beaches was bad because of excessive runoff and goose poop. Well they got the geese under control, and its been a long time since we had a good rain...... yet PB2 beach has been closed dang near all year I think., hasn't it?

The Gov said he wouldn't rest until water quality had noticably improved here, and that there would be ZERO TOLERANCE of systems not in compliance, ..... Every case I am aware of has been, or will be thrown out of court. So I guess I took the word ZERO out of context when that statement was made.

Nobody can clean this lake up, it is what it is.... I just have ZERO TOLERANCE for the brainwashing BS associated with it. The lake is foul. (by many folks standards) but it still has a purpose (by many folks standards) and can still be enjoyed ( by some folks).

I dont understand how you can't appriciate what they are doing. This five year study is from bagnell dam to truman dam. If you take all of the info and map the areas with the highest readings you may beable to track where the poop is coming from. It still could be run off from this spring. Any chicken farms, dairy farms, or cattle opperations could be the main cause of this.

[fishinwrench]

I could appreciate it if it was truly being done as implied, and if steps taken to rectify it would be effective.

The lake is lined with homes and businesses and medicine cabinets loaded with anti-depressants, hormone balancers, vitamins and narcotics. And each one has a septic system no further than 30 yards from the shoreline. Add lawn and home care chemicals to the mix as well (herbicides, pesticides and fertiilizer). I'm no scientist but I am willing to bet that the main source is oozing right out from under those concrete seawalls....But e en if it is, waddaya gonna do about it? Nothing, that's what. Because a choice was made back in the 1930's to boost the area economy by allowing a living breathing community to thrive along the banks.... and pollution of one form or another is unavoidable. Nothing short of buying everyone off...or somehow forcing them to leave, is going to noticably improve the water quality here. As time goes on the water color just gets more and more stained with suspended particles of.... whatever.

Anyone that spent time here back when there were still places where you could pull up on the bank and have a shore lunch will certainly attest to the natural beauty and clean water that has been forsaken, and to sit here and try to blame some chicken farm in Kansas is just rediculis. Equally rediculis is to pretend, like Jack, that the water quality is just fine because the fishing is still good. The best that anyone can hope for is that it will not get TOO MUCH worse.

Wrench out.

[gotmuddy]

I went to high school within sight of Lake Granbury in North Texas. It was lined with homes and canals and marinas and whatever for probably half the shoreline of the lake. We never had a problem with e.coli

[fishinwrench]

I went to high school within sight of Lake Granbury in North Texas. It was lined with homes and canals and marinas and whatever for probably half the shoreline of the lake. We never had a problem with e.coli

Sandy Texas soil prolly filters alot better than broken bedrock.

[eric1978]

Lake O is filthy, disgusting, polluted, infectious water. To imply anything otherwise is nothing short of delusional. But I still have a ball swimming and playing around in it. And I'll keep on doing it, with effort to keep my lips stuck together as best I can, and in the meantime try to figure out what to do with the extra toes and thumbs I've mysteriously been growing.

Until I quit smoking, I'm not gonna worry about polluting myself in other ways, since the cigs will surely kill me first. So while I'm floating around in Lake O on a couple noodles, bring me a beer and a Big Mac and give me a big whiff o' that Sea Ray exhaust. Mmmm, tasty.

There's nothing can be done about the nastiness. Just like everything else...until big money interests are removed from politics, progress can't be made. Which I guess means we're stuck with polluted water for the foreseeable future.

[Crappie_Slayer]

"it "persists" anywhere... when the source is non stop." Then why are the samples fine now? Could it be because it hasn't rained for a while? I might be that heavy rain cleans off the agricultural fields in the massive drainage area of the osage river basin and temporarily increases the ecoli levels of the lake. Truman Lake also has regular beach closings, and has zero lake front development. Furthurmore if it's failing septic systems that cause the elevated ecoli levels, one has to wonder why pb1 gets contaminated. There are no houses on the lakefront upstream from pb1.

[ness]

Hey -- poop is poop. Don't care where it came from.

[fishinwrench]

"it "persists" anywhere... when the source is non stop." Then why are the samples fine now? Could it be because it hasn't rained for a while? I might be that heavy rain cleans off the agricultural fields in the massive drainage area of the osage river basin and temporarily increases the ecoli levels of the lake. Truman Lake also has regular beach closings, and has zero lake front development. Furthurmore if it's failing septic systems that cause the elevated ecoli levels, one has to wonder why pb1 gets contaminated. There are no houses on the lakefront upstream from pb1.

This lake back-waters more than it flows through. Go far enough upstream on the Glaize arm until you have noticable downstream water movement and you'll find purer water. The mass of the contamination is NOT coming from the tributarys.

And where did you hear that the samples were fine now? If asked to I could produce a passable quality sample from any given area of the lake......

.I could also stir up the bottom a bit and produce one that most likely would be off the charts.

As for the other corps lakes .... they are only testing in the public beach areas where there IS development and human impact.

THIS LAKE HAS HUMAN IMPACT THROUGHOUT ITS ENTIRETY. So do the math.