Trespass

[jdmidwest]

Lots of Hog wash in this thread. From both sides, the hoplophoics and guys thinking they know gun laws. ( Just tryin to be fair its a fairly recent change in MO. law.)

571.030. 1. A person commits the crime of unlawful use of weapons if he or she knowingly:

(5) Has a firearm or projectile weapon readily capable of lethal use on his or her person, while he or she is intoxicated, and handles or otherwise uses such firearm or projectile weapon in either a negligent or unlawful manner or discharges such firearm or projectile weapon unless acting in self-defense;

Found Here: http://www.moga.mo.g.../5710000030.HTM

So drunk with gun while not smart for stupid drunks, is not aginst the law anymore. But drunk with gun and do something stupid/illegal with it is well illegal.

But that law only goes for self defense, any other discharge would be illegal. Hunting with alcohol is illegal and unethical. That does really seem to state that it is only legal in the use of self defense, not carrying for self defense.

[jdmidwest]

JD - you lost me on this one, and I'm generally a fan of yours, love all your work. Let me see if this is right --- You got out of your truck already holding a loaded gun, and THEN suddenly became aware that you were about to become a target of some thugs, but they saw you with a gun, and turned tail and ran? Is this correct? And you say "open carry" MAY be a deterrent???

I'd say it would almost be an absolute deterrent, but we'd all be characters living in Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome I suppose. "Peel rubber, Vern, we're not mugging that grandma with a bag a groceries, she just gotta out of the Buick with a .44 in her free hand, lets go to Starbucks an slay some pacifists!"

It was late, I was tired, I did not see them approach. They may have applied the gun to me, but instead it deterred.

I tend to think my firearms are more advanced than what mad max carried. I don't wear black leather either.

[ness]

Would a potato meet the definition of a projectile in 570.301.5? Where's Hoglaw?

[David Unnerstall]

I am wondering why those who are telling us we can't use contraceptives are not reminding us of the sixth commandment.

[Mitch f]

I am wondering why those who are telling us we can't use contraceptives are not reminding us of the sixth commandment.

Who is telling you that you can't use a contraceptive?

[eric1978]

I am wondering why those who are telling us we can't use contraceptives are not reminding us of the sixth commandment.

Yea! Another tangent. Let me go get summore corn. This one should be good.

[Trout Commander]

In (again) before the lock.

[Mitch f]

Yea! Another tangent. Let me go get summore corn. This one should be good.

LOL, Not gonna to say nuttin else, I'm dun

[jdmidwest]

Oh come'on, it is just like old times. All gathered around the computer on a cold winter night discussing stuff that does not amount to a hill of beans.

[Greasy B]

I don't have the ability to put I link on this message but this morning there is an article in the St louis post disgrace that makes wrench's argument. This bozo had no control of his weapon.