GNSfishing Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 IMHO, if that was the case, we would only need one knot and not the 1,000's that have been developed. Sure it is a maintenance issue as it is with all knots. However, the mechanics of how a knot is tied is very important as well. I have a knot question, when using a braided line and wanting to tie a leader to it using a mono or fluorocarbon line what knot is the best to use?? I am using the albright now but at times it will want to just pull apart when testing it and other times it holds good. I have tried other methods/knots, double Uni knot, blood knot, double grinner knot but always come back to the albright which seems to be the easiest and quickest in joining 2 different dia lines together but at times it does not hold.
Feathers and Fins Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 GNS, When I used Braid to leader I used a Bimini Twist on the braid the loop on the Bim was pulled down on a small pin of near the same diameter as the mono/floro i would be using. I would then use a Palomar or Fishermens knot to join the two and crazy glue them... If it was for saltwater I used shrink tube on the knot first filling the tube with crazy glue and then shrinking it down depending on size of line or species i was after. I can count the number of fish I have lost due to knot failure on a closed fist. Most people just dont want to take the time to tie a bimini. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Beaver-Lake-Arkansas-Fishing-Report/745541178798856
Daryk Campbell Sr Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 F&F, Good idea with the crazy glue, and with shrink tubing. I guess you have to be pretty darn careful if using a lighter to activate the shrink tubing, but it would serve great purpose. Gets me thinking on other uses for the stuff. I may post them later, as with most of my ideas, they become pretty dull when actually put to use. As far as knots go, I have used the improved clench knot for as long as I can remember. (except when I was tying 3 or 4 overhand knots. ;-) I have seen the others, but just like my zebco 33, I found what works for me and I continue to use it. Money is just ink and paper, worthless until it switches hands, and worthless again until the next transaction. (me) I am the master of my unspoken words, and the slave to those that should have remained unsaid. (unknown)
Feathers and Fins Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 I never used a lighter, use a hair dryer it takes a little longer but more uniform and wont melt the line. I also use the tubing for adding weights to my hooks and lines as well as rattles. For instance on a 5/0 Hook i will add 1/16 to 1/4 oz lead stick to the center of the bend of hook and a rattle just above it toward the eye and then shrink tube it to the hook. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Beaver-Lake-Arkansas-Fishing-Report/745541178798856
Billfo Posted September 2, 2012 Author Posted September 2, 2012 The Palomar knot is easy to tie with even terrible vision- thats probably my best reason for using it ! Email me Red-Right-Returning is for quitters !
Dutch Posted September 2, 2012 Posted September 2, 2012 The Palomar knot is easy to tie with even terrible vision- thats probably my best reason for using it ! Try the Pitzen knot. You can tie it in the dark or with a pair of gloves on in the winter. It works for mono, braid, and fluro.
moguy1973 Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 Here's a great video on this very subject and how to tie fluoro with a palomar so it doesn't break... -- JimIf people concentrated on the really important things in life, there'd be a shortage of fishing poles. -- Doug Larson
Kayser Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 Disclaimer- I've only ever used mono. Forgive the fluoro/braid-virgin. I'll second the Pitzen knot- I use it on everything from 8lb up for tight lure knots. Pretty much the only thing I'll use on bass and catfish, except when I'm snelling big circle hooks. I've also never lost a fish to it. Used to use a Rapala knot for looped lure connections, but recently found something else- don't know the name, but it's basically a slip knot on the main line, with the tag end passed through the eye of the lure and then through the slip-loop of the knot, and pulled tight. Learned that while pier fishing in NC a couple summers ago. Works beautifully, and super quick to tie. Otherwise, it's a clinch knot for all my panfishing needs. For joining, I've had decent success with the surgeon's and uni knots, but like the blood knot for similar line diameters. I've also used perfection loop coupled with an improved clinch for lines of different diameter, as well as the Albright special for really different diameters (love it). WARNING!! Comments to be interpreted at own risk. Time spent fishing is never wasted.
Members Gradyh Posted September 14, 2012 Members Posted September 14, 2012 I have a knot question, when using a braided line and wanting to tie a leader to it using a mono or fluorocarbon line what knot is the best to use?? I am using the albright now but at times it will want to just pull apart when testing it and other times it holds good. I have tried other methods/knots, double Uni knot, blood knot, double grinner knot but always come back to the albright which seems to be the easiest and quickest in joining 2 different dia lines together but at times it does not hold. You have to make absolutely sure the tag end of the braid enters the loop on the same side as the first time the braid when through the flouro loop. Hope that makes sense.
Members 3inonegod Posted September 14, 2012 Members Posted September 14, 2012 I have been bass fishing for about 7 years. I used braid for some applications and read that a polimar knot is the way to tie to braid. Since I only tie a polimar knot for all knots. I have caught a 9#, 7# and 6# large mouth on fluro with 6# test. The polimar has never failed me.
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