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Who cares if climate change is man made or not, common sense tells me that pollution (created by man) is bad for the planet and water supply. We shouldn't need a reason to conserve, clean up our energy, and recycle. If you are against this stuff you are a very selfish person.

"The problem with a politician’s quote on Facebook is you don’t know whether or not they really said it." –Abraham Lincoln

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Justin, I really doubt anyone is against cleaning up everything. We have made great strides in my life time of 5+ decades. You should have been around in the late 60s or 70s. Things are 500% better than then. I myself just doesn't want propeganda to influence me.

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....not even getting into this,

everyone just remember to get lots of pictures of snow so your great great grandkids will know what it is

Fish always lose by being "got in and dressed." It is best to weigh them while they are in the water. The only really large one I ever caught got away with my leader when I first struck him. He weighed ten pounds.

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Wayne,

You have said it better than I could have.

I remember when I was growing up there was talk of a new ice age. People tend to overreact and want to make a "crisis' out of every situation.

I refuse to be part of the sky is falling crowd.

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Who cares if climate change is man made or not, common sense tells me that pollution (created by man) is bad for the planet and water supply. We shouldn't need a reason to conserve, clean up our energy, and recycle. If you are against this stuff you are a very selfish person.

Don't go bringing common sense into this discussion! That'll just make people think a little for themselves, and we'll never get to 10 pages or the big X

John

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Wayne,

You have said it better than I could have.

I remember when I was growing up there was talk of a new ice age. People tend to overreact and want to make a "crisis' out of every situation.

I refuse to be part of the sky is falling crowd.

That's the problem with you baby boomers, you will be dead and gone long before the real problems are felt. Don't worry about your grandkids, as long as your 401 K is still intact.

"The problem with a politician’s quote on Facebook is you don’t know whether or not they really said it." –Abraham Lincoln

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I really hate to get into this myself, seeing how I don't feel like arguing for months on end, but....

The main stream idea that is insisted on is that man is the biggest reason for climate change, I happen to believe he is probably the least important, well except to the entrepreneurs looking for easy money and the East Anglica followers.

Different things have triggered climate change in the past. At one point it was the extensive colonization and spread of terrestrial plants that use CO2 for photosynthesis, so why would it seem difficult to extrapolate that maybe, the couple hundred million cars we have on the road today in just the U.S., could over their lifetime of use actually have a bigger effect on the makeup of a gas or gasses in the atmosphere that contribute to global warming, than some natural causes going on at the moment, when prior to 100-150 years ago, there was barely anything man-made that expelled this gas into the atmosphere? No doubt there are other causes that could have a more severe effect, but maybe this time it really is something as simple as humans that help this trend along quite nicely.

As for someone discrediting some non-profit non-believer and all, this happens the other way around too, and yet folks fail to "buy into the propaganda" and rarely ever dwell on things when it turns out some guy was getting paid to claim that climate change has nothing to do with humans.

As for propaganda, I also find it somewhat fishy when someone tells me that everything is just peachy and is all just a predetermined cycle regardless of the fact that things that may have an effect on climate, have been rather dynamically increasing even in the last couple decades.

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Sure was a nice weekend this one was, kind of reminds me of February without the rain.

"Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously."

Hunter S. Thompson

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Not even a measurable trace here. The fog this morning is wetting the ground more than the rain.

"Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously."

Hunter S. Thompson

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