jdmidwest Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I thought the original thread regarded legislation imposing a tax on people that use the river to pay for enforcement? "Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously." — Hunter S. Thompson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 That's 10! John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Agnew Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Chief, MSA has always in the past concentrated on MDC and smallmouth regulations changes. Yep, they are a Stream Team, and do cleanups of their adopted stretch of river. Yep, they are concerned about pollution and habitat issues, and have worked in the past with landowners doing tree planting and other stuff. Yep, they are aware of other things that could be done. But...they are a volunteer organization, and the problem with volunteer organizations is always inconsistent funding and manpower to do things themselves. And while MSA has a couple guys that are ready and willing to lobby the legislature and MDC to try to get things done on all the issues you are worried about, but an organization of 200-300 members will largely be ignored by legislators. MSA is a member of the Conservation Federation, and will continue to work within that organization as well, and they have a lot more clout. But heck, we probably have enough people that belong to Ozarkanglers to make as much difference as MSA does by themselves. Problem is, we can't get anybody to agree on much of anything:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Grey Bear Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 We agree something should be done. Chief Grey Bear Living is dangerous to your health Owner Ozark Fishing Expeditions Co-Owner, Chief Executive Product Development Team Jerm Werm Executive Pro Staff Team Agnew Executive Pro Staff Paul Dallas Productions Executive Pro Staff Team Heddon, River Division Chief Primary Consultant Missouri Smallmouth Alliance Executive Vice President Ronnie Moore Outdoors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne SW/MO Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 One thing not brought up in the thread that I have noticed is game wardens. Doesn't every county have at least one game warden? They would be perfect for the job of enforcing laws on rivers, since they have more jurisdiction than anyone in the state. And what do they do when its not hunting season?? I can't believe you posted this. One agent per county, some have two. Lets see, Stone only has the James river, Table Rock lake, Crane, Flat, and Finley creeks to worry about. The laws are there, just the desire is missing. If enough pressure is put on the affected agencies most will respond, then if money really needed I'm sure they will throw something on a ballot. Arbitrarily asking a certain fee isn't likely to go anywhere unless it also so has a plan detailing where the money will go and for what. Many counties already have tourist dollars to work with. A plea to the authorities to enforce laws, ensure there isn't over use and that Stream Teams get a lot of cooperation would be the place to start in my opinion. As far as changing the mindset of the people, that only goes so far and that's a proven fact and one of the reasons we have so m any laws, Today's release is tomorrows gift to another fisherman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 The laws are there, just the desire is missing. If enough pressure is put on the affected agencies most will respond, then if money really needed I'm sure they will throw something on a ballot. Arbitrarily asking a certain fee isn't likely to go anywhere unless it also so has a plan detailing where the money will go and for what. Many counties already have tourist dollars to work with. A plea to the authorities to enforce laws, ensure there isn't over use and that Stream Teams get a lot of cooperation would be the place to start in my opinion. As far as changing the mindset of the people, that only goes so far and that's a proven fact and one of the reasons we have so m any laws, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillback Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 X2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Grey Bear Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Way to pay attention. I said that yesterday. Chief Grey Bear Living is dangerous to your health Owner Ozark Fishing Expeditions Co-Owner, Chief Executive Product Development Team Jerm Werm Executive Pro Staff Team Agnew Executive Pro Staff Paul Dallas Productions Executive Pro Staff Team Heddon, River Division Chief Primary Consultant Missouri Smallmouth Alliance Executive Vice President Ronnie Moore Outdoors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillback Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Well then, kudos to you Chief also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotmuddy Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I can't believe you posted this. One agent per county, some have two. Lets see, Stone only has the James river, Table Rock lake, Crane, Flat, and Finley creeks to worry about. Table rock lake should already have enforcement from the corps. Game wardens should never have to worry about it. everything in this post is purely opinion and is said to annoy you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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