How Is This Economy Affecting Your Fishing?

[exiledguide]

No man, I was just taken back that someone can't live comfortably on 14k/mo. without also running their credit cards to the limit.

Maybe I'm jealous, does that piss YOU off?

WHAT? someone actualy was STUPID enough to admit he was too big off a STUPID ASSH$#% to live on $14,000 a month and got into credit card debt and wrench is criticized by uptonfish..........did I miss some thing here?

[jdmidwest]

Here awhile back I heard of a way to help the obese, take these motorized carts in these stores and put them on tracks which would bypass the chips, sodas, cakes, pies, ice cream, and candy areas and direct them by the fresh vegetables and healthy food areas only.

Back in the day, it was called commodities. Surplus food was given to the poor to supplement their food. Cheese, bread, rice, beans, oatmeal, etc. I think it was all packaged in white boxes and subsidized by the USDA. American farmers have always produced way more than Americans can consume. Some gets exported, some surplus was purchased by the government and used for the poor. Along came the food stamp, and now a government credit card. The later lets them use them on whatever "food stuff" they like. Soda, chips, seeds, ice, even bottle water. Giving them a choice has led them to what they have today.

I have been thru some tough times myself. I have been unemployed and on my own. I ate alot of deer, squirrel, fish that I caught or killed myself. Then with what money I had for the food budget, I bought can veggies, soups, hamburger, lesser cuts of meat, rice, beans, potatoes and cooked my meals instead of buying prepared products. I never had to use any government assistance, When I was growing up, most were ashamed to take it. Now, it seems to be a way of life now for many, a right granted to them by someone.

[fishinwrench]

Yeah I dunno. I'd personally never accept their handouts ....BUT.... Something (some little voice inside) tells me that our gub'ment wouldn't be offering jack s#it to anyone if they didn't know they were somewhat responsible for their situation.

[mixermarkb]

I know a young lady, who had one of those cards for a few months. The father of her 3 year old, had begun using steroids, and his personality changed. Home life had become very bad, and without going into too many details, she had to make a change. Living in a city far away from family, she packed up her son, rented an apartment and moved in. Childcare cost nearly what she made with the job she could find, as she had been a stay at home mom when in the old relationship. That EBT card was critical for feeding her and her son until she got on her feet.

My wife is not a lazy woman, and I'm really glad my stepson had food on the table. We work very hard, and she got off the food stamps as soon as she could, but those programs are needed.

[Chief Grey Bear]

I'll bet you a $1.00 to a doughnut that the tax payer is paying for it one way or another. These companys just don't do these things out of the goodness of their heart.. Its tax deductable in one way or the other.......dig deeper and you will find out.....

Are you a cop?

I'll take that bet. But you owe me a $1 until you find evidence otherwise.

[jdmidwest]

Are you a cop? I'll take that bet. But you owe me a $1 until you find evidence otherwise.

It is paid for by a government mandated tax on paying phone customers. There is a line item on your phone bill similar to the local 911. It is more like a sales tax or excise tax. And it has been around longer than cell phones, it used to apply to house phones. You can't really call it a mandated tax on an individual, just one the phone company collects and passes to the Federal Government. If you don't have phone service, you don't pay the tax.

[eric1978]

"Taxes are dues that we pay for the privileges of membership in an organized society."

-FDR

[Chief Grey Bear]

Just like you have to pay a tax to join the MSA and the NRA. And Uncle Sam has nothing to do with it.

It is paid for by a government mandated tax on paying phone customers. There is a line item on your phone bill similar to the local 911. It is more like a sales tax or excise tax. And it has been around longer than cell phones, it used to apply to house phones. You can't really call it a mandated tax on an individual, just one the phone company collects and passes to the Federal Government. If you don't have phone service, you don't pay the tax.

So the Government started charging a tax to pay for cell phone service for the poor before there were even cell phones? That is genius!

[GNSfishing]

Just like you have to pay a tax to join the MSA and the NRA. And Uncle Sam has nothing to do with it.

So the Government started charging a tax to pay for cell phone service for the poor before there were even cell phones? That is genius!

Welcome to the share the wealth plan....Isn't it great.

[Chief Grey Bear]

As a liberal, I share the wealth all the time.

Where is my dollar?