Members nobutt56 Posted February 27, 2013 Members Posted February 27, 2013 seagar red label...it cannot be beat. period! if you dont use flouro you should. it will increase your catch without question, especially on table rock. its not opinion its fact on mono vs flouro on clear lakes like the rock. any brand flouro beats mono on catch rates on clear lakes.
Members Cblaine Posted February 27, 2013 Members Posted February 27, 2013 Just curious if anyone has tried the Suffix 832 braid in ghost color. They claim this new color is virtually invisible in clear water. Wonder if it would increase the applications for my current a rig set up (7' 3'' Falcon Amistad) without having to change line or reels.
dtrs5kprs Posted February 27, 2013 Posted February 27, 2013 Just curious if anyone has tried the Suffix 832 braid in ghost color. They claim this new color is virtually invisible in clear water. Wonder if it would increase the applications for my current a rig set up (7' 3'' Falcon Amistad) without having to change line or reels. Have not tried the ghost, but did try the green. Sounds better through guides and may be more castable than power pro, but did not like it overall. Actually transferred less feel than fluoro. Felt like the lake bottom was mush, and have been told it is mostly rock . Also had some trouble with the fibers separating. This was in the 20# size, on spinning rods for shakey heads and tubes.
exiledguide Posted February 27, 2013 Posted February 27, 2013 Well put, and how many bass have most of us caught on an old 4600C and a Lightning Rod or All Star? Still am, as I use one for most vertical spoon work. Used to buy rods from and fish with Bud Erhardt of Mtn. Home on occasion. He had a motto on his Fishin' Sticks with respect to power and ratings. "If a line and lure combination feels good and works good, use it." If we did not have to deal with clear water, I don't believe fluoro would present the issue or choice it does. Green big game is fine for 2' visibility, and braid starts to be a player. When you can see them in 10' of water though... I still have a 61/2' spinning Fishin' Stick I bought from Bud at the St. louis show about 20 years ago to fish small worms I remember him saying that. It still is my go to rod for worms 7" or smaller. Still using hi vis trilene even though I know all these expert fishermen keep telling me I can't catch any fish using it with 20+ year old fishing tackle.
dtrs5kprs Posted February 27, 2013 Posted February 27, 2013 I still have a 61/2' spinning Fishin' Stick I bought from Bud at the St. louis show about 20 years ago to fish small worms I remember him saying that. It still is my go to rod for worms 7" or smaller. Still using hi vis trilene even though I know all these expert fishermen keep telling me I can't catch any fish using it with 20+ year old fishing tackle. Might have the same stick. 6'6" and a 3 star I think, would have to look at it. Used to pitch 4" ringworms on the Mississippi with it. Could get them where the flippers could not. Still use it for trick worms, grubs, all purpose. Bud left some great memories with those who had a chance to meet him. Still have a bunch of his sticks. Bought my first one at his house after a trip. Off Promised Land Rd if memory serves. Down by Noe Creek on Bull. His blanks and actions, round wrap aside, were very similar to the old Falcon Lowriders.
Champ188 Posted February 27, 2013 Posted February 27, 2013 when I fished tournaments witch were night tournaments I used flourecent and low vis green and won several of them in a row and had no problem with the line I use I have used floro but I can catch just as many fish as the next guy who has 100$ line on his rod to me its all in bait presentation and rods the rods make a difference for me take for example their are several guides who been fishing around me lately and Im sure they are throwing floro and im spanking them bad because of my presentation I'm not saying floro is junk but I just prefer to use mono cause I just cant justify spending 100 on one spool of line when I can do just as good as pros with out it. Ive got 20 years expeirience here on tablerock and know it like the back of my hand and I have not one problem with catching big fish or numbers with mono. Even the most expensive fluorocarbon doesn't cost $100 a spool unless you are buying bulk spools. A 200-yard spool of top-shelf Seaguar Tatsu or Sunline Shooter that will fill two bass reels is under $50. I'm a fan of Trilene 100% Fluorocarbon for jig or soft plastic presentations where feel is important. It's extremely sensitive and very tough and runs about $20 for a 200-yard spool. For topwaters or fast-moving baits like spinner baits or crank baits, good ol' Trilene Big Game, P-Line or Maxima is hard to beat.
exiledguide Posted February 27, 2013 Posted February 27, 2013 Might have the same stick. 6'6" and a 3 star I think, would have to look at it. Used to pitch 4" ringworms on the Mississippi with it. Could get them where the flippers could not. Still use it for trick worms, grubs, all purpose. Bud left some great memories with those who had a chance to meet him. Still have a bunch of his sticks. Bought my first one at his house after a trip. Off Promised Land Rd if memory serves. Down by Noe Creek on Bull. His blanks and actions, round wrap aside, were very similar to the old Falcon Lowriders. Mine is a four star pretty heavy action.
Bill Babler Posted February 27, 2013 Posted February 27, 2013 when I fished tournaments witch were night tournaments I used flourecent and low vis green and won several of them in a row and had no problem with the line I use I have used floro but I can catch just as many fish as the next guy who has 100$ line on his rod to me its all in bait presentation and rods the rods make a difference for me take for example their are several guides who been fishing around me lately and Im sure they are throwing floro and im spanking them bad because of my presentation I'm not saying floro is junk but I just prefer to use mono cause I just cant justify spending 100 on one spool of line when I can do just as good as pros with out it. Ive got 20 years expeirience here on tablerock and know it like the back of my hand and I have not one problem with catching big fish or numbers with mono. Gosh Josh, tell us how you really feel. Don't know a single guide that uses FC on a spinning reel, most use it for down baits on baitcasters. Personally I just like the way it lays and its lack of memory. Most often most of us use it for jig fishing or dragging. Everything most of us do that are getting paid to do it is nothing more than a fraction of a pimple advantage more for our clients. Josh as you have stated you have a rod in your hands and the experence to back it up with years of fishing expertise. Most of our clients don't even have a fraction of that. Everything I can do to help these people get bit is what I do. I am looking for one more bite a day, nothing more, just one more bite. If I can get one more bite per person per day on carbon over mono, it is worth it. If 10% of those one more bites is a catch, that is between 60 and 100 more fish a year that my clients might catch. That is huge, with only 1 more bite a day. Every bait I use, every rod and reel I fish with and everything I do is for 1 more bite a day. Success for me is to master the simple things and don't be afraid to try and learn something new every day you go. I will never be an expert, but I am going to keep striving for one more bite a day. Good Luck Appreciate you all http://whiteriveroutfitters.com http://whiteriverlodgebb.com
Jacob W Posted February 27, 2013 Posted February 27, 2013 Well said Bill B., that's what all of us strive for. ONE MORE BITE...
Champ188 Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Nothing to add to that, Mr. Bill. Darn well put. Donna and I often have the sun go down on us literally while we're looking for that one more bite.
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