Flysmallie Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 Now we know what happened to the Buffalo herds that used to roam this great land...... Perfect comparison in my mind.
Justin Spencer Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 Now we know what happened to the Buffalo herds that used to roam this great land...... And deer, and turkeys, and beaver, and ducks and geese and swans, and the list goes on and on, took much protection and a century to get these things back to where we could enjoy them again. Look at the past to predict the future, we won't let paddlefish get wiped out like we did these other animals, but it will lead to lower limits, and maybe closed years, which would make me mad if I was a pre-egg sell grabber. If this was an animal anyone here actually cared about attitudes would be much different. If you don't think people will exploit this resource for good money you are naïve. The public will never be allowed to sell eggs, so I don't know why we are discussing it anyway. "The problem with a politician’s quote on Facebook is you don’t know whether or not they really said it." –Abraham Lincoln Tales of an Ozark Campground Proprietor Dead Drift Fly Shop
fishinwrench Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 Now we know what happened to the Buffalo herds that used to roam this great land...... Where would they roam now, corn and bean fields? Ronnie, there's not THAT MUCH money in it. You're confusing the actual amount you are gonna get for some eggs because of what some egg-bust article claimed, and I seriously doubt that unprocessed roe brings that kinda cash. It's probably like a drug bust story in the news where they say 1/4lb. of weed has a street value of 50,000.00 Nevertheless, daily and possession limits would remain the same. You really think allowing folks to sell their spoonbill roe is gonna cause those who haven't participated in the past to go out and buy a boat, a truck to pull it with, pay taxes and insurance on both, then go out and buy snagging gear, ect.ect. ? I really have my doubts about all that.
Justin Spencer Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 Where would they roam now, corn and bean fields? Ronnie, there's not THAT MUCH money in it. You're confusing the actual amount you are gonna get for some eggs because of what some egg-bust article claimed, and I seriously doubt that unprocessed roe brings that kinda cash. It's probably like a drug bust story in the news where they say 1/4lb. of weed has a street value of 50,000.00 Nevertheless, daily and possession limits would remain the same. You really think allowing folks to sell their spoonbill roe is gonna cause those who haven't participated in the past to go out and buy a boat, a truck to pull it with, pay taxes and insurance on both, then go out and buy snagging gear, ect.ect. ? I really have my doubts about all that. No, but those who already have the boat might take up the sport if the money is right, I promise you if I could make $500 bucks a day or more I would sure spend a month grabbing these fish. I'm sure there are a lot of people like me who have always thought it would be fun, but have never done it, a little financial incentive would sure sweeten the pot. Many people in the Ozarks barely have a pot to piss in, but they do have a boat in the yard. Right now it is a stream of boats heading to Tecumseh everyday down here, and the whites aren't even running yet! I could see these folks heading the other way to put a little money in their pockets before the whites run. You may be right about the money involved, but I think you underestimate the effect it could have. There is a ton of poverty in the Ozarks, and while many of these people won't work, if they could get gas money to go fishing, you better believe they would, they sure aren't heading to work. "The problem with a politician’s quote on Facebook is you don’t know whether or not they really said it." –Abraham Lincoln Tales of an Ozark Campground Proprietor Dead Drift Fly Shop
fishinwrench Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 If this was an animal anyone here actually cared about attitudes would be much different. If you don't think people will exploit this resource for good money you are naïve. The public will never be allowed to sell eggs, so I don't know why we are discussing it anyway. Throwing their eggs in the trash shows that we care? Whether they allow it or not it's being done.
Flysmallie Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 Nevertheless, daily and possession limits would remain the same. You really think allowing folks to sell their spoonbill roe is gonna cause those who haven't participated in the past to go out and buy a boat, a truck to pull it with, pay taxes and insurance on both, then go out and buy snagging gear, ect.ect. ? I really have my doubts about all that. I love how you laugh at the validity of a report quoting the value of eggs. Saying that they are exaggerating and then post this. Plenty of people already own a boat and a truck, plenty of places to do it from the bank. I think we need to get you in for a brain scan because it's obvious that it's not working correctly. You place value on a resource and allow ANYONE to profit from that resource and you will see the decline of that resource. Would you be opposed to me being able to sell my catch of legal trout? Bass? Whites? Deer?
fishinwrench Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 You may be right about the money involved, but I think you underestimate the effect it could have. There is a ton of poverty in the Ozarks, and while many of these people won't work, if they could get gas money to go fishing, you better believe they would, they sure aren't heading to work. Yep there's alot of poverty. Snagging IS work. You only get to keep a few, and there's no guarantee that the ones you get will be loaded with eggs. Either way you're right, rules aren't gonna change so it remains yet another illegal activity to declare WAR on. I just think it's rediculis and kept illegal for the wrong reasons.
Lvn2Fish Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 Why would the fisherman have to seen any return for this? Set up check stations just like deer, close to the rivers where the paddle fish run. When the fish is brought in the roe is removed. On you go.
Justin Spencer Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 Yep there's alot of poverty. Snagging IS work. You only get to keep a few, and there's no guarantee that the ones you get will be loaded with eggs. Either way you're right, rules aren't gonna change so it remains yet another illegal activity to declare WAR on. I just think it's rediculis and kept illegal for the wrong reasons. You are allowed to release them so you better believe most of those without eggs will be thrown back and some of those will probably die. I don't think we really need to put tons of resources into stopping illegal sales, but if people are dumb enough to get caught so be it. It comes down to what is best for the resource, and the way things are the resource seems to be fine, if it ain't broke don't try to fix it. "The problem with a politician’s quote on Facebook is you don’t know whether or not they really said it." –Abraham Lincoln Tales of an Ozark Campground Proprietor Dead Drift Fly Shop
fishinwrench Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 Ok, I was wrong. My mind has been changed. Sorry for being so hard headed and rebellious against the seemingly endless amount of petty regulation. It's all for the betterment of society as a whole, I'm sure.
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