Crawdad Fishing

[Iclass]

There's a dock owner in SE Ark that has a sprinkler system hooked up on his dock. Best crappie dock on the lake. When you get close he turns on the water...took a couple trips to realize all we needed to do was wear rain suits and keep on catching "his" crappie. Some reason those crappie tasted better than any other I ate!

[GNSfishing]

There's a dock owner in SE Ark that has a sprinkler system hooked up on his dock. Best crappie dock on the lake. When you get close he turns on the water...took a couple trips to realize all we needed to do was wear rain suits and keep on catching "his" crappie. Some reason those crappie tasted better than any other I ate!

Its people like that should have their dock permit yanked and have to remove their dock from our WATER !!!!!!!!

[Guest]

The only restriction in the '13 regs for chumming is specifically for trout.

It most certainly works, especially when planned so that current from generation takes the scent by a bunch of cats playin' cards or shootin' pool. If you're midlake, you don't consider the tiny current from generation to have much influence, but it certainly does.

I take a 50lb bag of floating catfish pellets and dump into 2 burlap bags. Then pour karo syrup on the pellets and toss a scoop of stink bait in there. I use zip ties around the bag so it doesn't come open. Tie a cinder block to the open/tied end with a very short piece of rope. Place the burlap chum bag into a heavy duty trash bag. This will ensure that it doesn't leak onto your boat or truck. Sink it in 10-25' FOW, where ever the bream are spawning. It works like a charm on channel cats, turtles, mud cats.

[Bill Babler]

On the Corn and trout deal. When my son was in college he worked with the University of Missouri and the Missouri Conservation Dept on a study concerning Whole Shell corn in the diet.

They had 3 pens of Brown Trout in the Study. One pen they fed a complex fish food diet. Another pen they fed only Whole Shell corn. The third study group they fed nothing but what fell into the pond or washed in from the outside. After a 6 month trial period. The Pen with the full feed of Whole shell corn had the lightest total weight and the highest mortality rate. The pen they fed nothing to had very little mortality and a much higher growth rate. The complex trout diet of course won the trial. The reason for the test was of course to see if the corn had an effect on the Brown Trout, and if was total negative.

[abkeenan]

On the Corn and trout deal. When my son was in college he worked with the University of Missouri and the Missouri Conservation Dept on a study concerning Whole Shell corn in the diet.

They had 3 pens of Brown Trout in the Study. One pen they fed a complex fish food diet. Another pen they fed only Whole Shell corn. The third study group they fed nothing but what fell into the pond or washed in from the outside. After a 6 month trial period. The Pen with the full feed of Whole shell corn had the lightest total weight and the highest mortality rate. The pen they fed nothing to had very little mortality and a much higher growth rate. The complex trout diet of course won the trial. The reason for the test was of course to see if the corn had an effect on the Brown Trout, and if was total negative.

Good info there Bill. When I chum I just use canned soft kernel from the grocery store, the cheapest cans they have. Less than a buck a can so $10 will last a weeks worth of chumming. When I do bait my poles up though I use the hard whole shell corn and before hand take a small drill bit and drill small holes in them so I can thread them onto the hook. A little time consuming but it is well worth the time of not having your bait sitting out there at the bottom with no bait on it. Perch usually will get the bait off the hook before you hook up with a carp and the little boogers can't get the hard kernels off. If your hook if our there with hard kernel you can rest assured your bait isn't gone so just leave it be.

[Guest]

Good info there Bill. When I chum I just use canned soft kernel from the grocery store, the cheapest cans they have. Less than a buck a can so $10 will last a weeks worth of chumming. When I do bait my poles up though I use the hard whole shell corn and before hand take a small drill bit and drill small holes in them so I can thread them onto the hook. A little time consuming but it is well worth the time of not having your bait sitting out there at the bottom with no bait on it. Perch usually will get the bait off the hook before you hook up with a carp and the little boogers can't get the hard kernels off. If your hook if our there with hard kernel you can rest assured your bait isn't gone so just leave it be.

I've never heard that about carp but it makes sense.

I watched a youtube video of European carp anglers using a mini chum bag wrapped around a stout hook.

They put the hook in a small bag and filled it with powdered chum mixed with fish food,

then tied it off to the main line above the hook.

it would float in the slack areas where carp hang out.

somehow the bag emits the chum when its soaked with water.

I might give that a try.

[Bill Babler]

This is a White River or a Taneycomo topic, but I have caught trout on Taney, with huge bellies and no meat on there backs, real thin. If you try and clean them they are full of slimey green corn. Fish are not built to digest this. It is my hope one day they make the practice of chumming it to trout illegal.

There is really no reason to do it, use a big fat night crawler and they will come a runnin.

Good Luck

[bfishn]

This is a White River or a Taneycomo topic, but I have caught trout on Taney, with huge bellies and no meat on there backs, real thin. If you try and clean them they are full of slimey green corn. Fish are not built to digest this. It is my hope one day they make the practice of chumming it to trout illegal.

There is really no reason to do it, use a big fat night crawler and they will come a runnin.

Good Luck

+1 100%

Given people's natural dislike of rules, I had very few when I ran the Trout Farm. One of them was "No corn". (Soft canned corn was just as bad as field corn).

I eventually had to add "No throwing rocks in the water" too, much to the chagrin of all the perfectly normal little kids. Fed trout will eat anything hear the size of a food pellet... quickly, before another fish can get it. To them there's no difference between a handful of chat peppering the suface and a handful of feed. To their digestive tract, it's another story.

The solution was to keep food handy, and the kids would rather feed daddy's quarters into a gumball machine for it than use the bags I offered for free. It was also the best bait by far, 95% of the tons of trout I sold were caught on trout feed (much to the chagrin of the fly-flinging grampas).

SEC Crawdads. :-)

[Feathers and Fins]

One of my favorite Carp/Catfish baits is made with corn products

2 cups cornmeal

2 cups dry dog food

6 slices of bread

1 can cream of corn

Mix in a 1 gallon ziplock bag to the consistency of pie dough add water as needed.

Simple and very effective.

[Quillback]

Back in my days of living in the northeast, all of the trout in the lakes and streams for the most part back then were stocked fish. Using corn for bait was very popular, when cleaned most of the trout had corn in their guts, quite a few would also have cigarette butts. Pretty much a put and take fishery, so long term health of the trout was not a concern.