For My Republican Friends

[Justin Spencer]

Wayne the government made busses available for people to leave including shuttles to come pick up people who had no means to get to them. All efforts pre-kitty were made to evacuate everyone who wanted to leave. After it hit they were on their own and justifiably so. All the government agencies told people they might not be able to help them during or after the storm for some time. It really isn't governments job to put others in harms way for stupid people.

This really isn't about politics as it is about people wanting hand outs and crying when they don't get them fast enough. Substitute the words Katrina for Sandy and see the same thing.

I can't remember, but did they have a place to take them? Didn't look to me like many of the Katrina people could afford any lodging. This is pre-storm planning that needs to be thought of by any and all parties. Each city that could be hit by a hurricane needs to have a "refugee camp" plan for those that can't afford to go anywhere, otherwise the same scenario will play out time and time again.

I can understand people wanting the infrastructure fixed, but the rest should be up to them, after all they live in a dangerous place, if you don't want to deal with it, move! For goodness sake don't give them money to rebuild back in the same spot.

[Al Agnew]

Here's the point I think everybody should take with the original post...way too many people, no matter what their political persuasion, are very badly misinformed about any given political issue, and are very quick to blame the other party or the other guy for anything that goes wrong, even when it's obvious to anyone who IS informed that it isn't true. Could have been Democrats just as easily.

And blaming whoever is in charge for the lack of evacuating before the hurricane hit is a lot different from blaming whoever is in charge in the aftermath, when help didn't get there as quickly or efficiently as people needed or expected. The feds had relatively little do with the evacuation plans and their execution, but they did have a lot to do with the aid afterward, which is pretty much how it is with any natural disaster.

But in something like this, the aid is only as good as the people who actually have the responsibility of getting it done, not the people at the top. Presidents and Secretaries come and go every four or eight years, but lower level bureaucrats are there practically forever. Unless each new President orders each new cabinet member to completely clean house in the first three months and make sure they get people in those positions who are actually competent instead of just preserving their jobs, blame for any snafu should rightly fall partly on the holdovers from previous administrations.

But we all like to score political points on whoever we don't like, so it was no surprise that Bush and "Brownie" got pilloried by the Democrats for the response to Katrina, same as Obama and his cabinet members have gotten pilloried for a lot of things that they had little control over or actually did as well as could be expected. It's kinda sickening no matter who is doing it.

[moguy1973]

Come on now.......Miley needed the money!!

She will if she continues down her current path.

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Smallie... Lighten up Lucy was in my funny voice. Forgot the smiley face.

[Feathers and Fins]

Emergency areas Justin, don't recall where they were located but had shelters.

And getting the infrastructure back up and running is a priority but people need to understand it takes time. Frances and Jeanne kept me without power for 8 weeks not like the crews were not working but in so much devastation they can only do what they can do and you have to just grin and bear it. For the most part it wasn't to bad and had the Love Doctors and Lexus to keep everyone laughing during the day on the radio. Wouldn't want to go through it again but sure was nice to see so many people pulling together to help. Interesting side note 9 months later the hospitals were very busy lol.

[Justin Spencer]

Emergency areas Justin, don't recall where they were located but had shelters.

And getting the infrastructure back up and running is a priority but people need to understand it takes time. Frances and Jeanne kept me without power for 8 weeks not like the crews were not working but in so much devastation they can only do what they can do and you have to just grin and bear it. For the most part it wasn't to bad and had the Love Doctors and Lexus to keep everyone laughing during the day on the radio. Wouldn't want to go through it again but sure was nice to see so many people pulling together to help. Interesting side note 9 months later the hospitals were very busy lol.

Saw the Love Doctors and Monsters in the Morning in West Palm, good stuff!

[Wayne SW/MO]

Wayne the government made busses available for people to leave including shuttles to come pick up people who had no means to get to them. All efforts pre-kitty were made to evacuate everyone who wanted to leave. After it hit they were on their own and justifiably so. All the government agencies told people they might not be able to help them during or after the storm for some time. It really isn't governments job to put others in harms way for stupid people.

That's only partly true. Most of the police and fire department in NO was gone long before Katrina hit. There was no one who went and checked on critical areas. The bottom line is much of the local government didn't do their job. It has absolutely nothing to do with party affiliation because it wasn't a party problem, but a local administrative one. You can second guess the Governor all you want, but she clearly blamed Nagin and his administration for the lapse. Many didn't leave the 9th ward because it was considered safe and that turned out to be a whole different set of circumstances. The deaths in the nursing homes and hospitals shouldn't have happened.

[Guest Brian B.]

I heard a story to illustrate the whole Katrina victimhood BS and I'm sure I will butcher the deatails but here goes-

Two groups of people are riding up an escalator at a mall- halfway up the escalator breaks down. The first group scratches their head and "hmm- guess I'll walk to the top the rest of the way", and off they go. The second group looks at one another and stalking about how long help will be along...

Guess which group wears "we are the 99%" shirts?

I remember Katrina- those people had ample warning to get out- ZERO sympathy for any able bodied "victims" that (cry me a river) were "left" behind...

(I could also tell you about the "tradesmen" that flooded our minority % cooperation required job sites as well- lest jump to the end of the story.... After failing to meet SEVERAL extended deadlines and being granted approved Sat/Sun work to get caught up these "victims" were fired and proceeded to steal materials off the jobsite- (not knowing that my DVR was up and running- dohh).... They were threatened to bring the materials back ot the footage was. Going to the police (kid glove treatment.. Kid glove treatment hiring them based on skin color, kid glove treatment pampering them rather than arresting them for stealing and trespassing..)

[Old plug]

One point the director of fema was a a horseman and politicalappointment with no ecperience. The general went down there and got thing going. Was a bunch of people making mistakes. It is typical of what you can expect overall around this country. The media is a mess.

[Feathers and Fins]

huh, 2 month old thread brought back up? OP you board this morning? lol