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Wingnut is generous description indeed. Heard the Van Buren meeting got ugly with a lot of grandstanding. They will be meeting in Kirkwood tonight I hear.

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I got a kick out of the video, and apparently the guy's coming up from West Plains to speak at the meeting tonight. Sadly I'm out of town for work- that'd be worth seeing.

Hope someone brings popcorn, as well as plenty of tinfoil hats to pass around :)

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Just trying to be a little diplomatic re the "wingnut" description; there are plenty of other appropriate descriptors that just

wouldn't likely make it on this board. I'll be at the meeting tonight to see if the wingnuts show up.

It sure is irritating to think that I can't really take my kids down to our backyard national park for an overnight float in the summer w/out

being blasted by jets or sharing a seemingly remote gravel bar with ATVs. True story. My eldest son's first camping trip ever was nearly 6 years ago. He was 8 months old. It was early May, second weekend I believe. I had looked forward to this trip for decades before I was blessed with a child. We left Akers on a Thursday and took out at Two Rivers on Saturday. Thursday was great - basically no one else on the river. Ditto Friday. Friday night we camped at Bee Bluff. A wonderful, warm spring evening...until a group of three jets went up and down for an hour that seemed like forever. They'd go up and then down, passing by every 10 minutes or so - just joy riding with fat chicks on the bow - you know, just like the old-time tradition dictates. I couldn't fish. I couldn't take my son out in the water. None of us could just enjoy the river in relative peace; really experience what makes it so special. The whole river clouded up due to the waves lashing the bank.

Saturday morning was great; got an early start to try and beat the crowds. At Twin Rocks, there were 3 RVs along the bank and then the jet boats - one after another. In the fairly narrow run right above Two Rivers two younger, obviously local guys flew past at full speed, on plane off the right side of our canoe not much more than a paddle length away. Just about swamped. My 8 month old was in the front, plainly visible standing in the bow w/ Mom's help - but those aholes didn't care. One false move or one beer too many and they could have nailed us and the results would have been tragic. There were, as I recall, fourteen, jet boats and trailers getting ready to head out from Two Rivers when we pulled out. 14. In early May. Ridiculous. And that, along with many other similar experiences, is why I believe the NPS has to do more. Sorry for the repeated long posts - just a bit passionate about this I guess.

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I got a kick out of the video, and apparently the guy's coming up from West Plains to speak at the meeting tonight. Sadly I'm out of town for work- that'd be worth seeing.

Hope someone brings popcorn, as well as plenty of tinfoil hats to pass around :)

I will be at Powder Valley tonight displaying strong opposition to these horse people, even though I despise the Sierra Club and hate being lumped in with people you call "wingnuts" but, I do support your cause. Citizens of this country that believe in liberty are all not necessarily "wingnuts" but, that generalization is typical of some.....and I will not be friendly

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What time is the meeting tonight? The guy in that video is beyond a fool. He acts like he is saving the river by letting people abuse it. If he had his way Missouri would be like Colorado and landowners would own the river.

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