fishinwrench Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 How hard can they be to build ? Borrow one, study it a bit, and start making your own.
kjackson Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 Kinda wonder about tying a really large, articulated fly...
Troutnut69 Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 A 6-8" double deciever has been one of my best producing flys for all species of bass (mostly rivers with a few pond and lake fish thrown in) and has a general profile that looks kind of like a swimbait. The "Game Changer" is another pattern that looks similar in style , probably even more-so than the DD.
fishinwrench Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 Yeah the only problem with fly gear and "swimbaits" (for bass) is that you really need a steady unchanging retrieve with no pauses most of the time, and you can't get that when stripping a fly. I was out the other day looking for whites when the snow had just started falling and caught some nice greenbass on a 3" Sassy shad. The only way they'd eat it though was on a straight steady pull with no twitches or pauses. You can pull off the jerkbait thing with fly gear and streamers, but not the swimbait thing. Wrong tool for the job.
Old plug Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 I had a BBZ1 and caught one small bass on it before I lost it due to a unseen crack in my rods tip top. I have no doubt they will catch fish used in the right place at the right time. I had the BBZ1 slowsinker model. My intentions were to use it as a alternate to my 11 inch plastic worms I use in a specific situation over deep suspended bass that rise to about 10 ft or so to feed on summer evenings. I will say I really liked the sink rate and the the action was what I wanted on the slow stop and go retieve. I will not be buying another one however. I have advanced artritis and it does not take very long casting a heavy plug around to agravate it. So I will stick to my worms.
Moswimb8slinger Posted November 17, 2014 Author Posted November 17, 2014 Sorry to hear about that Plug. Stringer, I use Berkley big game mono clear 15lbs test for the BBZ1Jr and s-waver 168, I use same line but in 20lbs test for the bbz1 8inch and s-waver 200. Fishnwrench, were you talking about the flies or the swimbaits on that last sentence?
Moswimb8slinger Posted November 17, 2014 Author Posted November 17, 2014 I beg to differ with that statement because the S-wavers especially are very very slow sinking baits. Add a split ring to the line tie of either the S-waver or BBZ1 baits and the baits come to life with the slightest input. You can slow roll the bbz1 baits as slow as you can tolerate. The s-wavers do require a slight nudge to induce their gliding action, after that they can usually be retrieved fairly slow
fishinwrench Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 I was referring to trying to catch swimbait fish on a fly, with fly gear. But on second thought it could be done by drifting (wind trolling) with a sinking line.
Moswimb8slinger Posted November 19, 2014 Author Posted November 19, 2014 My friend Kevin held this 18lbs 1oz. LM caught in Southern California, on a large white streamer/fly rod. So its not impossible, but your more likely to see a big bass with a swimbait
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