More Midwest Finesse

[dtrs5kprs]

Enjoyed the links to the articles, thanks for posting them. The article about Shin Fukae on Beaver was very interesting in how he approaches finesse fishing. Agree with the dragging retrieve on the little rig, other than when the moss was bad last spring. At that time I had good success with popping the rig up and letting it fall on semi slack line not letting it hit bottom and getting in the moss. Strikes would occur on the fall.

Right. For us the moss sort of functions like grass, at least in terms of making the swim retrieves important. I will still drag it along in the snot. It's not like all the bait and craws vacate as soon as the rocks green up.

[Moswimb8slinger]

My dad and i used to wade creeks (swan, beaver, roarke, turkey) alot during the summer. I can remember back 20 years ago, him using texas rigged razor worms for smallies and when those got torn up, he'd put them on a 1/16 jig head and continue to throw it near boulders in the deeper holes. Always caught good numbers but no biguns, maybe 3lbs at the most.

Last summer i went out with a guide buddy, after throwing topwaters in the morning, we would cover coves with pea gravel and dragged senko's pinched in half with a 1/16 football jigs and caught some keeper smallies in the dam area of TRL.

The "Ned" rig is nothing new but it does work, no matter whose name is on it

[Old plug]

That is for sure Richy----- But it does do something for personal promotion, I had never thought of it as a named thing. It was just a way to rig it up. It is like Guido Hibdon being the father of fitness fishing. I was surprised many of these guys were not aware of it. It is just a rigging you automatically will come to thru experience.

[abkeenan]

That is for sure Richy----- But it does do something for personal promotion, I had never thought of it as a named thing. It was just a way to rig it up. It is like Guido Hibdon being the father of fitness fishing. I was surprised many of these guys were not aware of it. It is just a rigging you automatically will come to thru experience.

I don't think Ned is putting his name on it at all and it's not like he is self-promoting it from a profit standpoint. Someone just attributed his name with refining that rig and style of fishing. He stands nothing to gain from it. If he didn't share his info on it Dave might never have heard or read up on it of it which means I might never have heard of it and that would be a real shame because this thing puts fish in the boat as good as any rig I've tried. Especially when things get tough. Had I not read up on the Jika Rig and posted my findings a few years ago here maybe a few guys on OA wouldn't have heard of it and never tried fishing it which again would be a real shame as it's a fish catcher as well. Who cares who invented it? It's about sharing info...which this site and it's members do better than anywhere else.

[fishingaddiction]

I don't think Ned is putting his name on it at all and it's not like he is self-promoting it from a profit standpoint. Someone just attributed his name with refining that rig and style of fishing. He stands nothing to gain from it. If he didn't share his info on it Dave might never have heard or read up on it of it which means I might never have heard of it and that would be a real shame because this thing puts fish in the boat as good as any rig I've tried. Especially when things get tough. Had I not read up on the Jika Rig and posted my findings a few years ago here maybe a few guys on OA wouldn't have heard of it and never tried fishing it which again would be a real shame as it's a fish catcher as well. Who cares who invented it? It's about sharing info...which this site and it's members do better than anywhere else.

You hit the nail on the head ab. I can't tell you how much this forum has improved my fishing technique's especially for the Rock. It's all about sharing information from everyone who posts to this forum. Each of us can either choose to use this information to improve or ignore it.

[Old plug]

The rog is bot a miracle a miracle bait by any means. It has its place and it is a small fish lure do bot expect to catch many lunkers on it. it is at its best in the spring on channel banks but I would not bet on it catching anymore than a jig or crank bait. that has been my experience with it that started many many years before you was even born.

[abkeenan]

The rog is bot a miracle a miracle bait by any means. It has its place and it is a small fish lure do bot expect to catch many lunkers on it. it is at its best in the spring on channel banks but I would not bet on it catching anymore than a jig or crank bait. that has been my experience with it that started many many years before you was even born.

That's fine. Nobody said it was a "miracle bait" anywhere in this thread or in any of the articles. There are plenty of pics of nice fish taken on small lures just on this forum alone. Babler has posted he caught his LARGEST FISH ever on Table Rock around 9-10lbs on a tiny float n' fly jig that isn't more than a 1/16oz bait and he has been fishing this lake since the 60's or 70's. There was a post last year of a guy catching a 7ish pounder on a little 4 or 5 inch finesse worm on shakey head in the middle of the afternoon. For someone that doesn't fish the Ned Rig or Alabama rig you certainly have a lot of opinions on it from "experience" with them at your ripe age.

[Ham]

The only thing better than a know it all is a grumpy know it all.

[teamsam]

To clarify, he is not fishing the Ned rig, he is using the Nod Rog!

[dtrs5kprs]

Just let it be.

Folks who look into it will learn Ned never refers to it as the "Ned Rig", and does not have any commercial interest in it. If we send reports, he edits that name out of them. He was already writing for In Fisherman and other publications before he ever started to open up about this system.

He would give the credit to Chuck Woods, Drew Reese, Dwight Keefer, Guido Hibdon (Ned calls him "Gete", b/c they used to guide together), the Wards, and a few others from the Manhattan to Kansas City to LOZ corridor. One of those guys you probably have not heard of, Chuck Woods, but was really the father of the system. Three of the others fished Bassmaster Classics, largely on the strength of what Ned prefers to call Midwest Finesse, and I believe Bill Ward also qualified back in the day. If you watch the James River Classic video, you will see Guido doing some of the same things just with larger baits (at least as far as we saw)...especially milking a good area for every possible fish. Methodically, slowly, quietly, fishing every single thing in a small area.

To a lot of us who follow the tenets, it is sort of an honor and a thank you when we call the little rig by that name. Trust me, no one else was going to talk about it.