Hunter53 Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 LOL....I could fix you up. This is why I really like posting some of the baits I make on here. Getting a different perspective can make a huge difference. PM me the cost and I might just try one out. Hope my idea works out for you!
Bill Babler Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 Balsa, here with the hook restriction you do not want to over extend the bait in the body length. By doing that it creates way to many available targets that are separate from the bio-mass. Instead of hooking multiple rigs together, and I am speaking from experience here, create a single 5 wire rig with the arms a little longer. Put 2 blades on each arm and a dead bait on the end. Very similar to the 5 wire 15 target Picassa Bait Ball. Only you can do it better. Make the arms on the bottom 3 inches longer than the top arms and make the center arm 3 inches longer than the longer bottom arms. Doing it this way you are keeping the bio-mass closer together and hopfully deflecting the strikes away from the forward portion of the bait. In a perfect world, you want all the strikes on the trailing bait. Several of the local guys here have purchased wire benders and that has saved a lot of blisters. Just simply great work by you. thanks so much for sharing it. Good Luck http://whiteriveroutfitters.com http://whiteriverlodgebb.com
balsabee Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 Thanks Bill! I'll make one up like you are talking about and post it on here in a few days for you and others to critique. If I ever see you on the water I'll give you one!
Mitch f Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 I saw on Facebook they were catching so nice fish today on a A-Rig called the "Missouri Flurry Rig" "Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor
balsabee Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 I saw on Facebook they were catching so nice fish today on a A-Rig called the "Missouri Flurry Rig" Sometimes simple is best...looks like a 3 wire flash mob jr. with no head.
Bill Babler Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 Ya that is the exact looking rig as the PigSticker http://whiteriveroutfitters.com http://whiteriverlodgebb.com
abkeenan Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 I get mine from this guy on Ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Ea-KC-Schoolem-VII-h-Flurry-Mini-Ala-Umbrella-Style-Rig-0306142-/251466228394?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a8c8e22aa . Won't find them any cheaper and I don't think it matters at all if there is a nice looking lead or plastic molded head on it. Guy makes a good product at a fair price.
Bill Babler Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 The biggest problem with losing these very valuable A-Rigs is from the start we have been trying to put "WAY TO GOOD OF A HOOK" in them. You just do not need to put that big Owner-VMC-Gami in them. Use a lighter wire hook that will bend out when you snag it up. If you feel the need after it bends out a couple of times, replace it. A 1$ hook beats the heck out of losing a 15 to 30 dollar rig. Even you all that make yours, that is a lot of time and very, very hard work. I will post a picture of the absolute best head and hook combo I have found later this afternoon, after my guide trip. http://whiteriveroutfitters.com http://whiteriverlodgebb.com
balsabee Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 This is the hook that I've been using to pour my jigs. Extra long shank and compares to the Mustad ultra point black nickel but softer and will bend out. I've been very impressed so far and a great price. http://www.captainhookswarehouse.com/index.cfm?page=detail&hookid=944&sizeid=24
abkeenan Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 I am not cheap but I am somewhat frugal as always look for the best deals. I already posted the link above to the Ebay seller I buy my A-Rigs from which come out to be 4+ bucks a piece and then I use these for jig heads: The guy that makes them pours a TON OF different heads with different hooks options however you want them if you just ask. I use 1/4oz and 1/8oz heads and I believe a 3/0 and 4/0 hook and they are thin wire like Bill says that will bend out so you can get your Rig back. They are Matzuo sickle hooks and they are super sharp. The point will curl up from time to time on rocks and whatnot so just replace the hook. He sells them for about $7 bucks plus $3 for shipping for a total of 50 jig heads for 10 bucks. He also sells a stouter Mustad hook ball head for the guys that want to go that route. I also get my crappie jig heads from this guy using the same darter type head on a 1/32oz or 1/16oz head with that same Matzuo sickle hook only a #1 or #2 size hook and I get those for $10 bucks shipped also for 100 ct. I've been happy with them so far and it's easy on the wallet when you lose stuff in cedars. Here is the link to one of his listings: http://www.ebay.com/itm/50-1-8-oz-BULLET-JIG-HEAD-W-BARB-AND-COLLAR-W3-0-MAZUO-RED-SICKLE-HOOK-/121287911538?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c3d52a872
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