Ham Posted April 27, 2014 Posted April 27, 2014 I don't know if it is a function of poor reading comprehension or what, but I sure don't get the hostility either. Dave has stated multiple times that Ned doesn't like that it got named after him. We call it the Ned rig because it is an easy name to use that gets us all on the same page. The Midwest Finesse guys have been sweating the details and screwing around with this for a long time, but I don't think any of them are claiming I did it first or look at me I do it better than you. The jig worm concept has been talked abound for at least three decades in various forms. I'm glad that it works for other ppl who found it (mostly) on their own, but don't understand how that invalidates the discussion of the Ned rig. I grew up fishing areas that would not allow the use of an open hook worm on bottom. It was a snag every cast and after a while Dad would have me take a break so he could fish instead of get me unsnagged AGAIN. It was Texas rig or nothing. Times change. I live up here now and much of my Atchafalaya Spillway fishing doesn't translate. I'm not so proud of my past fishing that I let it keep me from being open to new ideas. I appreciate the nudge to use the Ned rig . I'd read about it before, but I had thought it had more to do with the metro lakes it was being used in. Look, I have 100's of brand name Senkos and Dingers BUT I choose to use the cut Zeros because IF you glue it on with LocTite Gel that little chunk stays on there for hours and it seems to improve with age. I tried the cheapo super glue I use for other stuff, buit the Loc Tite is soooo much better for the Zeros. I can't make myself use GYCB 4 inch grubs anymore because I have to replace the grub after every fish. I can't imagine I would stay in my groove very well if I had to put another 1/2 chunk of Senko on after every third fish or so. I will use a 3 inch dinger on a crappie jig head in a creek scenario. I got 6-8 fish per dinger and I can live with that. Heck I've got to paddle down the creek every now and then anyway. In general, there is SMH about stuff on forums. Ppl just let stuff get under their skin too easily. IF reading about the Ned rig bums you out, don't click on the thread. Or here's another wonderful feature. The ignore button. Add users that annoy you to the ignore list. It's so nice. Every Saint has a past, every Sinner has a future. On Instagram @hamneedstofish
dtrs5kprs Posted April 27, 2014 Posted April 27, 2014 Have been hearing that some of the cheap tube glues are reacting with the elaztech. Have not had trouble with the loctite. Have some that have been glued for a couple of years, with hooks broken off for my kids to use for knot practice. Good thoughts Ham. Have a beautiful Arkansas Sunday. Starting to rumble a bit here, and is way too hot to be safe. Looks like some big weather coming from Tulsa.
dtrs5kprs Posted April 27, 2014 Posted April 27, 2014 If there is a first guy, at least in the KC area, it was probably the late Chuck Woods. He built the beetle, then the Ward's got it from him. And no doubt someone else did it also. It is more about using it as system, not as a backup.
dblades Posted April 27, 2014 Posted April 27, 2014 Thanks Bill, saw your rig at the bridge when I launched Friday morning. I caught fish but not like I was anticipating according to the reports. I know with it being slick I should have tried the little rig, but haven't made the commitment yet. I caught them on the wobbler also, depth around 12 feet either in front of the spawning banks or flatter points.
dtrs5kprs Posted April 27, 2014 Posted April 27, 2014 Thanks Bill, saw your rig at the bridge when I launched Friday morning. I caught fish but not like I was anticipating according to the reports. I know with it being slick I should have tried the little rig, but haven't made the commitment yet. I caught them on the wobbler also, depth around 12 feet either in front of the spawning banks or flatter points. Craziest thing I've ever seen on flat water and high skies. I'll never pray for wind again.
bfishn Posted April 27, 2014 Posted April 27, 2014 I find typing "Ned Rig" is a lot easier than typing "Half a 6" Senko type bait super glued to a 1/16 oz mushroom head jig with a weed guard". But, that being said, we need to think of a more regional name, kind of like Carolina rig, Alabama rig or Texas rig. Some suggestions: Kansas rig Missouri rig Ozark rig Rock rig How 'bout 'rock turd'... you know, one of those insignificant little buggers where the experience far exceeds the appearance... It's self-deprecating enough to give the detractors some satisfaction, and it should cut way down on the "what's a rock turd" queries. I can't dance like I used to.
dtrs5kprs Posted April 27, 2014 Posted April 27, 2014 I find typing "Ned Rig" is a lot easier than typing "Half a 6" Senko type bait super glued to a 1/16 oz mushroom head jig with a weed guard". But, that being said, we need to think of a more regional name, kind of like Carolina rig, Alabama rig or Texas rig. Some suggestions: Kansas rig Missouri rig Ozark rig Rock rig It is really just short hand, so we all know what we are describing. Mideast Finesse Rig is tough when tippy tapping on a tiny keyboard. As I told Ned, it is like saying trolling motor instead of electric positioning motor. The problem with a regional name is it works darn near everywhere. Maybe the KC Rig since that is where so many of the original group learned it.
dtrs5kprs Posted April 27, 2014 Posted April 27, 2014 How 'bout 'rock turd'... you know, one of those insignificant little buggers where the experience far exceeds the appearance... It's self-deprecating enough to give the detractors some satisfaction, and it should cut way down on the "what's a rock turd" queries. A lot of folks do call it the turd worm, but that is also used down here to mean fish docs, dead ringers, etc.
bfishn Posted April 27, 2014 Posted April 27, 2014 Aw, you're just afraid they'll call you a turd herder. :-) I can't dance like I used to.
Goggle-Eyed Posted April 27, 2014 Posted April 27, 2014 I don't know if it is a function of poor reading comprehension or what, but I sure don't get the hostility either. Dave has stated multiple times that Ned doesn't like that it got named after him. We call it the Ned rig because it is an easy name to use that gets us all on the same page. The Midwest Finesse guys have been sweating the details and screwing around with this for a long time, but I don't think any of them are claiming I did it first or look at me I do it better than you. The jig worm concept has been talked abound for at least three decades in various forms. I'm glad that it works for other ppl who found it (mostly) on their own, but don't understand how that invalidates the discussion of the Ned rig. I grew up fishing areas that would not allow the use of an open hook worm on bottom. It was a snag every cast and after a while Dad would have me take a break so he could fish instead of get me unsnagged AGAIN. It was Texas rig or nothing. Times change. I live up here now and much of my Atchafalaya Spillway fishing doesn't translate. I'm not so proud of my past fishing that I let it keep me from being open to new ideas. I appreciate the nudge to use the Ned rig . I'd read about it before, but I had thought it had more to do with the metro lakes it was being used in. Look, I have 100's of brand name Senkos and Dingers BUT I choose to use the cut Zeros because IF you glue it on with LocTite Gel that little chunk stays on there for hours and it seems to improve with age. I tried the cheapo super glue I use for other stuff, buit the Loc Tite is soooo much better for the Zeros. I can't make myself use GYCB 4 inch grubs anymore because I have to replace the grub after every fish. I can't imagine I would stay in my groove very well if I had to put another 1/2 chunk of Senko on after every third fish or so. I will use a 3 inch dinger on a crappie jig head in a creek scenario. I got 6-8 fish per dinger and I can live with that. Heck I've got to paddle down the creek every now and then anyway. In general, there is SMH about stuff on forums. Ppl just let stuff get under their skin too easily. IF reading about the Ned rig bums you out, don't click on the thread. Or here's another wonderful feature. The ignore button. Add users that annoy you to the ignore list. It's so nice. You are correct. Sorry for my rant.
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