mojorig Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 Dewayne, Ignore all of this!! It wont help you in any of the tournaments down here, lol!! Jeremy Risley District Fisheries Supervisor AGFC Mountain Home Office - 1-877-425-7577 Email: Jeremy.Risley@agfc.ar.gov
Champ188 Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 Dewayne, Ignore all of this!! It wont help you in any of the tournaments down here, lol!! Jeremy is probably right about tournament applications. Not sure I'd ever pick up a Ned in a tournament unless I was really desperate. Of the fish Donna and I have caught with them, very very few would be derby fish.
dtrs5kprs Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 Bass Pro carries them. Lol. Must be Springfield only. Again with the sad face.
dtrs5kprs Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 I thought you were the guy that preaches not to be in such a hurry to get your bait to the bottom. I thought the slow almost floating fall was often the ticket to a better bite? Yes, the nanofil does catch more wind. I think it is not a round profile, but more flattened and I think it weighs a lot less than mono or especially fluro. I think the low weight is a big part of why it out throws mono. but regardless I catch a lot of fish on it windy or not. I know it has greatly improved my fishing and my catch rates. Slow fall is good. Water skiing across the top because the wind caught the line is bad. Had so much line up in the sky I thought I was about to be hit by lightning. At a guess, Bill's experiences with it are out in the 15-25 foot range where you might otherwise run a shakey head or drag a doctor. Out there you do get less bites on the fall. The slow fall is a bigger deal in colder water, around cover like docks or cedars, or shallow. We know the bird boat is apt to high center if there is less than 30' under her.
dtrs5kprs Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 Jeremy is probably right about tournament applications. Not sure I'd ever pick up a Ned in a tournament unless I was really desperate. Of the fish Donna and I have caught with them, very very few would be derby fish. Think it depends on the tournament. A one day jackpot derby is going to need some weight to get a check. A circuit where the goal is to fish for the boat at the end? I'd fish it in every one of those because the first thing you need is limits at each tmt to get in the final deal.
Guest Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 The best days are during April/May after a major cold front. The wind is totally slack, the blue sky is cloudless & people are out working in their yards. Those are the days when conventional worm fisherman even have a tough bite. Lets say your working docks with shallow water/pea gravel under the walkways & 12-18ft of water on the ends. I found that a lift & glide approach works much batter on bass suspended under the boat in the deeper zone. Throw it out let it "drift" to the bottom & use small short hops to work it down the slope towards the boat. Right about the time its 6-8' from the boat, just pick up slightly on the bait, enough to make it swing towards you. This pendulum approach will catch bass after you've made several passes down that same bank catching bass earlier in the day. Usually the bigger ones 18" plus are hanging out 7-10ft deep but suspended. The pendulum swing will cause the bait to glide right thru those bass. They're the ones who hammer it or suck it up & start swimming to the boat in deeper water. The trick is to figure out the exact depth & show them a different retrieve on each pass down the same bank. I have 2 identical rods rigged up with different weights & the same color. For this, I use 1/16oz for the walkways & 1/8oz for the ends near deep water. This allows me to work shallow to in between & in between to deep. Just my 2 cents
Guest Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 Think it depends on the tournament. A one day jackpot derby is going to need some weight to get a check. A circuit where the goal is to fish for the boat at the end? I'd fish it in every one of those because the first thing you need is limits at each tmt to get in the final deal. I fished it some in the December's tournament at Lake Smallmouth in Oklahoma. Looking back, I should've ditched the wart bite due to the lack of wind. It was slick & drizzling all day with 54 degree water. I could see the bass were scattered throughout the water column bc the lake was on a slow rise & water was stained due to runoff. We caught 1 keeper smallie on the wart & a keeper spot on a hair jig. The rest of the day we hauled water. Looking back, I should have picked apart each of those points with the Ned. 3 more keepers would have landed us in 2nd place, aka in the money. Lesson Learned
dblades Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 All of this really takes me back to the days of the Gitzit (or G-2). If you'd fish a 3" tube bait the same exact way I think you'll find that you have extremely similar results. Gitzits and those little arrow shaped jigheads, caught me a lot of fish out west back in the day.. Dewayne French 1
Members ksmybass Posted January 6, 2015 Members Posted January 6, 2015 what is everybodys fav color or colors that seem to work for the ned rig?
Quillback Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 what is everybodys fav color or colors that seem to work for the ned rig? I'm partial to Green Pumpkin and Dirt when it comes to Zinkerz. I'll also throw PB&J and GP/Orange.
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