Jig Heads

[dtrs5kprs]

Wow. No pressure. Will try to get something up as a unique thread. Bill touched on a lot of the keys. As simple as it can be, it really is a system, and works best when everything is dialed in to make the most of it. The head is just a part of the complete deal.

[Ham]

The gopher heads have bait holders = weight down the shank. They were the first jig head I used for the Ned. I didn't seem to have baits ripping to pieces. I was able to glue them OK. And while weight down the shank MIGHT be sub optimal on SOME days, sub optimal does NOT mean a jighead is worthless. I priimarily won't be using Gophers anymore because of cost and availability issues NOT because I struggles to catch fish on them.

I certainly want the best jighead I can acquire (at a certain price break point). I won't spend the extra money to get tungsten or overly expensive gammies or Trokar or whatever the latest Uber hook is. A good quality Mustad Ultrapoint is fine by me.

I caught several hundred bass on non optimal Ned Heads last year,and I plan to catch several hundred more bass on sub optimal jigheads this year. I do enjoy the "finer" things though and I will use the best ones made (Super Dave's OPTIMAL Ned Heads) when I'm serious about it or in heavier wood situations.

[Guest]

I've experimented & caught fish on several different jigheads.

Nothing comes close to Dave's.

[Champ188]

Only Ned knows the Ned rig better than Super Dave.

[hunter_3780]

So how can you get ahold of some of Dave's golden Ned heads?

[Hunter53]

^^^^^

Dtrs5kprs makes the best jighead available. IMO

That is the truth for sure!!!

[Hunter53]

So how can you get ahold of some of Dave's golden Ned heads?

Shoot him a PM.

[Bill Babler]

Ham got along fine with the additional lead and collar and keeper on his rigs. I did not, it is that simple. I will never use a collard hook again if I can avoid it. For one thing even though the elastic is very strechy, when you insert the collard head it forms a pocket they does not really like to adhear to the lead shank of the collar. it is also very hard to glue it to the head as the bait does not like to slid up the lead collar and the additional hook keeper. I also had a lot of problems with the lead hook keeper which is part of the collar ripping out the side of the bait and then again creating a problem. For Me.

On the non-collard jig head the bait is not damaged and does not create a pocket but is tight fitted to the hook shank and when you cut the bait in half it glues perfectly to the flat butt of the jig head making a perfect fit. The head seems to be designed to not only create a perfect flat attachment point for the bait but is also the same diameter as the bait and makes a smooth finish with nothing hanging over the side. I will try and post some pictures of a collard head vs a smooth shank flat head in the future.

I misspoke by saying the collard head was worthless, I should have said that I was not satisfied with it and needed a better wheel, I apologize for that.

He said he caught 100's and never had one pull down. I did not have that success, if I had I would not have stated other wise. Perhaps it was my glue or my technique in setting the hook, but myself and my clients did have problems to the extent that I was looking for a better mouse trap.

Nothing negative about the collard heads I use them to swim a grub and fish deep all the time. I just prefer not to use them on the Ned.

Sorry for the confusion.

[dtrs5kprs]

So how can you get ahold of some of Dave's golden Ned heads?

Feel free to PM for info or additional contact info.

I am pouring and painting heads tonight, but will do my best to reply promptly.

Everyone is being far too kind. They are just a little old lead head. I will try to address the various heads available and what I and others tried in terms of hook combos, etc.

[Ham]

And don't misunderstand me, I think Dave has sweated out the details and come up with the best jig head for Ned fishing that I have ever used, BUT I don't just carry one jig head for Ned fishing. I think I am using two different non weedless designs (one has a collar and one does not) and then the head that Dave came up with. I have also used the Skinny Bear heads that you can get from TW, at Dave's suggestion, and they work very well, but cost more and rust QUICKLY if the chunk is left on the jighead at the end of the day. I had hook failures from this type rust on fish which is not acceptable so be forewarned on that deal. I'm done with Skinny Bear, but they work too.

I saw the Z man Shroom jighead in person yesterday. I saw it catch fish and it can be used without glue for a little while. I would still glue mine from the get go, but that's just me. The hook seems roughly the right size with VERY thin wire. I don't think the hook Dave uses will ever let you down on a bass, but I would be shocked if the Z man head can hold up over time. I strongly suspect it will lose its temper and bend out or snap. Expensive for my tastes as well, but they will work.