Kimberling 4/23 WinkieDoodles Redux, Again Even

[Ham]

I use the Alberto which I understand is an Albright by another name basically.

[dtrs5kprs]

All those braid to leader knot names sound like diving or gymnastics moves.

[GNSfishing]

Well what ever but that combination is solid and is not like using a spring for fishing line when setting the hook as mono and FC becomes when you have 50 to 75 ft of line out you don't have to have those show boat hook sets.. with the braid/NanoFil line to a mono/FC leader...

[Champ188]

I tried fluorocarbon this week on my spinning reels and I'm sold. My eyes just can't adjust to seeing braid standing out like a tree trunk underwater and wondering if my leader is long enough or if there's any way to get your leader long enough that the fish don't see that stuff.

Just my opinion. Obviously, the braid-leader setup works for some.

[dtrs5kprs]

I tried fluorocarbon this week on my spinning reels and I'm sold. My eyes just can't adjust to seeing braid standing out like a tree trunk underwater and wondering if my leader is long enough or if there's any way to get your leader long enough that the fish don't see that stuff.

Just my opinion. Obviously, the braid-leader setup works for some.

I've run leaders up to 10' long and still did not feel comfortable with them. Quality, modern FC is like thread in the 6# size.

The results from the back of my boat sure point to a difference.

[Ham]

I've run leaders up to 10' long and still did not feel comfortable with them. Quality, modern FC is like thread in the 6# size.

The results from the back of my boat sure point to a difference.

So cajunangler and I share time at the front of the boat. At Tenkiller, multiple times the guy at the front of the boat would be flat stoning them and the guy in the back was largely relugated to observer status. When we switched positions, the guy formerly going fishless in the back would start catching them left and right, and the guy that just left the front is now going fishless.

for example, I had gone 20 minutes without a fish. My turn came up on the bow. Without relocating, I took the bow and caught fish on the next 8 casts in a row. ca was rerigging or something and I just kept catching them.

We were fishing the same bait. The same line and leader combo. It wasn't a line issue; it was a position in the boat issue. The aggressive fish were quite happy to eat the first bait they saw. I suspect that happens in other boats from time to time. I also suspect that Dave is very good with the Ned and that there is a learning curve for some of the back seaters in his boat.

If I struggle fishing a Ned behind Dave, I'm pretty sure it doesn't have anything to do with line choice.

In regards to leader length, I truely believe length of leader matters to use more than the fish. I have fished with the same leader until it gets 12 inches long and there was no problem.Guys fish sink tip fly lines with a very short leader at times. I'm pretty sure fly line is more obvious to the fish than Nano is. Free your mind, the rest will follow.

Champ, I'm glad you are happy with you set up. Lots of ways to skin this cat and different strokes for different folks.

[fishingaddiction]

+1 on what Ham said above.