Aunts Creek

[Bass Enforcer]

Fishinwrench that simply isn't true. Greg with Mdc at lake of the Ozarks does a great job. If you ever have an opportunity to go out with him when he shocks the lake you would see how he cares for the fish and documents everything.

[fishinwrench]

I know Greg Stoner and he is a good dude. I don't question how well he does "his job", but rather whether doing his job is sufficient to ensure a healthy fishery.

Ask him how the White bass spawn has been the last two years, and then get back to me about how well he knows what's going on here.

While your chatting with him see when was the last time he spent a day out here. You can't truly know how things are going in a body of water unless you are out there ON IT way more than 3 days a year.

You also can't make an assessment about fish population just by shocking around PB2 for crying out loud.

[GNSfishing]

There is a fairly shallow 60 acre lake where I grew up that everyone considered "fished out".

One Summer they knocked 2 tiers off the dam to drain it and it turned a 60 acre body of water into a 10 acre mud hole. The fish started dying and it was so freaking full of good sized bass and cats it was insane.

We scooped up as many of the bass as we could that were still alive and tried to move them in coolers, trash cans and buckets to a strip pit 5 miles away but only a few made the trip alive (it was too hot out).

After that I just always roll my eyes when someone talks about a lake getting fished out. I just don't think you can do it even if you tried. Especially a lake the size of TR where fish can hide in 30+ foot of water.

So someone keeping a limit of fish really shouldn't freak anyone out, it just means more food and better conditions for the fish still in there.

Did anyone figure out why those fish did not get caught. If no one was catching very many fish then it had been fished so much that the fish got educated to what everyone was using as bait which would be known as fished out. Fished out does not really mean very little fish or none it means that the pressure was so much that the fish acclimated to what was being thrown at them and/or there was an abundance of food. The animal world is not dumb in anyway, they will adapt to the point, that man pressures them into extinction.

[merc1997 Bo]

Get over it guys. Champ you know I like you a lot and you are one of my favorite guys on the site but this chastisement needs to stop.

All of you listen to me now, if a few of us keep a few fish we are a just fine. Great in fact. This is what is happening so that's a good thing! We are doing it right guys! This has been going on forever and just look at how great the lake is right now! Read the fishing reports. The lake is kicking butt!

If we all keep all the keepers we catch we are in deep trouble. This is not even close to what is happening. Crappie fishermen keep everything over 10" almost all the time. They are just fine.

If our priorities were right and in the right place abortion wouldn't even be in the dictionary. Put a bass on a stringer a couple times a year and hypocrites thinking that they never catch or weigh a bedding fish (Champ, Bo) and people lose their minds. These lakes are managed. They will never be void of bass. The fishermen care and the conservation care. Regulations may have to change but Table Rock will always have bass.

This is seriously becoming redundant, ignorant, hypocritical, bullcrap guys.

i did not state that i never catch a bass off a bed. what i did state was that i do not go sight fishing. i know that many bassers look forward to going sight fishing each year. i have always never felt the need to sight fish, and put more effort into staying with pre-spawners, and when they are all gone, figure out where they spawned first and start catch those that have.

the main point of what i have stated is for those that have been berating this fellow for keeping a few bass to eat do things such as sight fishing that is not good in others eyes. bed fishing is legal and so is keeping some legal bass to eat.

bo

[merc1997 Bo]

Fishinwrench that simply isn't true. Greg with Mdc at lake of the Ozarks does a great job. If you ever have an opportunity to go out with him when he shocks the lake you would see how he cares for the fish and documents everything.

since you mentioned shocking, you can not get a true read on a lake by shocking the same few areas all the time. the mdc has not done any shocking in the eagle rock area of tr for eons. they shock james river all the time, and base the entire lake from that.

this sure is a long thread starting from someone posting a pic of a few k's they intended to eat.

bo

[Boobie]

good point BOZ.....

[Tanderson15]

I used to fish for bass when I was stationed in the south. But I have never ate one. That's what walleye, perch, bluegills, and crappies are for. Bass are for fun. But I don't like taking them off the beds if not released there. Another-2 cents. Now I just fish for walleye.

[fishinwrench]

since you mentioned shocking, you can not get a true read on a lake by shocking the same few areas all the time. the mdc has not done any shocking in the eagle rock area of tr for eons. they shock james river all the time, and base the entire lake from that.

bo

This is true. I have followed their stuff for 18 years here on LO and it's insanely obvious that they "sample" areas that favor the best results, and when they have a very low sample they omit it from the study (claiming that conditions just didn't favor shocking that time).

What the hell is to be learned from THAT?

This lake has lost the last two years of white bass spawn because of Ameren's second drawdowns. Whites only live 4-6 years so loosing two year classes back to back is kind of a big deal. I mentioned it to an agent and he looked at me like I had just reported a UFO abduction. He had no clue, and really didn't seem to even care one little bit.

So what good are they ?

[5bites]

i did not state that i never catch a bass off a bed. what i did state was that i do not go sight fishing. i know that many bassers look forward to going sight fishing each year. i have always never felt the need to sight fish, and put more effort into staying with pre-spawners, and when they are all gone, figure out where they spawned first and start catch those that have.

the main point of what i have stated is for those that have been berating this fellow for keeping a few bass to eat do things such as sight fishing that is not good in others eyes. bed fishing is legal and so is keeping some legal bass to eat.

bo

Well maybe I misinterpreted it to a degree then. It sounds like we agree to a point. It sounds like we agree hypocrisy abounds in these discussions and definitely when it comes to spawners.

I do look forward to sight fishing. I thoroughly enjoy it. I do think it is bull crap to jump down anyone's throat for keeping any species of fish anywhere if it's within the law. I don't have to like it either but knocking someone down about it is bull crap. We can discuss it in a dedicated thread without pointing fingers. That's what chaps me more than anything about the butthurt displayed on here about filleting some fish. If people wanna talk about it fine. Start a topic. A fishing report isn't the place for it I dont care if he would have had pics of them on a bloody metal stringer flopping on a fillet board.

We don't have to want to keep them ourselves. We don't have to want to bed fish. We shouldn't say a thing to the ones that have the right to though.

[Iclass]

Agree there's lots of misinterpretation...but the bigger hypocritical issue to me is that in another thread guys were praising the right to wave the American flag...yet the same guys are pissing on the freedoms of another members rights.