5bites Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 Yes, we disagree on a few things. Likely more than a few. I can live with that. In this context, you think it's imperative to have every electronic bell and whistle available, and to spend a whole lot of time learning to use them. For me, the top priority is to spend more time learning the habits of the fish and developing intuition as to how to find an catch them in a given situation. Catch and release is worth arguing about. This is not. I'm done here. Got fish to catch and golf to play. Good luck Saturday at Grand. I will say that you have me pegged wrong and I would be glad to explain in person rather than repeating myself on this forum. I do know a useful TOOL when I see one though.
Champ188 Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 Fishing toys are fun, no doubt about that. I just hate seeing people get it in their head that they need a 30k+ dollar boat loaded with all the latest electronics in order to be moderately successful. That just ain't so, and 5bites is gonna loose his cool when I say this, but.... All the guys I know that are all into this sonar crap in a big way can't ever fish worth a hoot. I guess they think learning the sonar ins/outs is gonna fix that, but so far it isn't working. Hey, I said the same thing earlier ... most guides not included because drop shotting will get you lots of bites, especially with live crawlers. And guiding is mostly all about getting lots of bites with size not really that important. But the derby fishermen I know who spend hours on end playing video games are usually at the back of the check line, if they are in it at all.
5bites Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 Fishing toys are fun, no doubt about that. I just hate seeing people get it in their head that they need a 30k+ dollar boat loaded with all the latest electronics in order to be moderately successful. That just ain't so, and 5bites is gonna loose his cool when I say this, but.... All the guys I know that are all into this sonar crap in a big way can't ever fish worth a hoot. I guess they think learning the sonar ins/outs is gonna fix that, but so far it isn't working. Dude I have a 13yo boat with one of the graphs I bought used and the other I was able to afford due to the rebate. Also I sold my current graph to get it and that only put me out about $300 to upgrade from my 998 to the 999. If I was all about the latest and greatest I'd have much more than two midrange graphs on my boat. My budget doesn't allow it. To counter your statement about guys into electronics someone I consider to be one of the best tournament fishermen in the area proves that statement dead wrong. I will not name drop but I'll say he did well at the all American this year and has been solid for a while. A few years ago when I was considering my first unit (898) I asked him what he thought about side imaging. His words were that he has cashed many check due to him having it on his boat. Finding brush, ledges, rock piles isolated lay downs etc etc etc is inarguably easier with si. It's about isolating your time to productive water when you aren't beating the bank. Same story with a couple grand lake gurus I know. Yes it's neat to tinker with but it's also productive and a learning experience. Again with one of the very best fisherman on Stockton. He applied si and got serious about it and now he's the guy to beat post spawn. So maybe wrench is right that he doesn't know anyone that can run s graph and fish good. I'm not surprised really.
5bites Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 Hey, I said the same thing earlier ... most guides not included because drop shotting will get you lots of bites, especially with live crawlers. And guiding is mostly all about getting lots of bites with size not really that important. But the derby fishermen I know who spend hours on end playing video games are usually at the back of the check line, if they are in it at all. Vertical fishing is not part of this conversation. Were you video game fishing in tournaments this year???
5bites Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 I don't understand why it's so hard to believe that finding structure and cover faster is not better. D Mann 1
fishinwrench Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 OK, you win the debate. I still have you beat by 12.7 though, better get busy.
5bites Posted July 24, 2015 Posted July 24, 2015 So I have to catch 12.8 and then I really ultimately win? I just hope my wife has a good time. She's not a boat ride person so sitting in the middle of the lake on a 97 degree day with typical Grand boat traffic is not an ideal scenario. I'd rather it be an April willow bite for many reasons but when someone is watching both kids at once you take what you get. I'll try the willows since there are still some with water but I'm not optimistic.
fishinwrench Posted July 24, 2015 Posted July 24, 2015 You only get to count the first 4 hours If it was APRIL you'd have to beat 18-20#
WeekendWarrior Posted July 24, 2015 Posted July 24, 2015 Here's some porn for ya...IMG_20150723_200044.jpg Need porn with a number (GPS number)
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