DainW Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 1 minute ago, Mitch f said: Being called a racist is a pretty horrible thing, when someone makes up untrue stuff about you and posts it on the Internet, you have a right to be offended. Come on man I never actually called you a racist. What I said was that I can't understand is that people who supposedly stand for a certain set of principles and have harshly criticized one president for standing for the opposite of those principles while supporting a candidate that's even worse in a lot of respects than the current president on those principles. When I look at the situation from that standpoint, the only reason that I can see for this group of people supporting this candidate is that they are reacting to racial dog-whistles. If you feel like that's an unfair assessment you should tell me why you support him (assuming you're a conservative) when his campaign flies in the face of so many principles that conservatives are supposed to stand for. Seriously though, this is why we probably shouldn't talk politics on a fishing forum. I mean I don't post here a lot, but when I have all of you guys have been very forthcoming with information, Mitch, Smalliebigs, Flysmallie etc. I also read posts on here A LOT and you guys are a treasure trove of information. I don't think politics can really be discussed in an online forum the way it can be over a beer or on a long drive to a fishing trip. What you guys have read is just my opinion. I'm not trying to offend anyone here or insinuate that anyone is a racist. I don't really know any of you personally I'm sure you're all great people and TBH I'm ready for this election to be over already so we can all get back to talking about fishing. I'm just strongly opinionated and I have a hard time not throwing my two cents in on something like this.
Old plug Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 WOW Now let see if someone is playing a game with me. The update was rejected because it took to much time. So I will repost thr post and see what happens. How many of you get your new from one TV channel. Either FOX or MSMBC. They both are biased. They will bend the truth to fit the networks views. Something like brain washing to be truthful. Sorry I never liked being lead one way or the other like some fool. When you see accusations made against some act, official or legislation. How many of you of you take the time to investigate if it is accurate or not. You can get both side of the story off the internet and in the case of legislation actually find out what was in the bill and who put amendments into it. That can be very revealng when it comes to who is helping who. That is better than trusting some talking head is saying or if he even cares if it is rumor or the unbiased truth. Talking heads or not free people they are the slaves of the networks views. I believe the networks or the greatest source of division alone between people in this country.. Mopanfilsher-- there were 12 black delegates at the Republican convention is what was reporded from the floor. While there were many at the Democrate convention. I do not know if that is true or not. Maybe you want to check it out. but the appearance of it does not seem to support any contention that the Democrate were dividing anyone. I also seen people wearing turbans and Moslems in the democratic deligate crowds. I seen of those neither of those in the the republican delegates.Maybe we need to look that up as well. Maybe we would get a better idea of who and what was acceptable
Flysmallie Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 34 minutes ago, DainW said: When did this country become so sensitive? Because I don't like being called a racists when I'm not. It destroys too many friendships and families. Besides you don't know dung about me for you and Old Plug to start with your racists talking points straight out of the "Democrat for Dummies" handbook. That's what Dems do when they get backed into a corner. Remember you are the one voting for a candidate that cheated her way to the nomination not me. Don't try to throw your ignorance off on me. I never once said Trump would get my vote over Hillary. I can tell you right now that neither of them deserve anyone's vote. And spare me the lesser of two evils BS. Evil is still evil. And don't call me a Republican or say that's my party either because it isn't. I'm not a bottom feeder that needs to associate myself with a party. I do pretty good without their assistance.
DADAKOTA Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 Hmmm pondering some things I have never understood. The BLM crowd has openly expressed its hatred for whites and police officers. They have killed based on their stated expression. Is that not racist? Is that not a hate crime? So HRC openly supports BLM. Does that make her a racist? In regard to Obama. He is the product of a black parent and a white parent. Basically a 50/50 deal. Why is he defined as being African american when he could just as easily be considered Caucasian? How is it officially determined what you are when its a 50/50 split? Can a Caucasian be considered racist toward a Caucasian? If someone is rattling off polish jokes is that being a bigot toward my Polish ancestry? If the Constitution and Bill of Rights grant certain things equally to all, then how can the use of a word be allowable for one group and not for another? People need to respect each other and treat others as you would like to be treated. Help your neighbor. Be honorable. To me it does not matter what color, gender, sexual preference, age, income, religion, etc. a person is. It only matters what kind of a person they are. Old plug and MOPanfisher 2
DADAKOTA Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 I believe the networks or the greatest source of division alone between people in this country.. I could not agree more.
DainW Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 1 minute ago, Flysmallie said: Because I don't like being called a racists when I'm not. It destroys too many friendships and families. Besides you don't know dung about me for you and Old Plug to start with your racists talking points straight out of the "Democrat for Dummies" handbook. That's what Dems do when they get backed into a corner. Remember you are the one voting for a candidate that cheated her way to the nomination not me. Don't try to throw your ignorance off on me. I never once said Trump would get my vote over Hillary. I can tell you right now that neither of them deserve anyone's vote. And spare me the lesser of two evils BS. Evil is still evil. And don't call me a Republican or say that's my party either because it isn't. I'm not a bottom feeder that needs to associate myself with a party. I do pretty good without their assistance. Come on man I never called you racist either. Literally everything I posted was directed at people that are supporting Donald Trump. I've asked that question now like three or four times and nobody can really give me an answer. If you're not supporting Donald Trump then I'm not sure why you felt like I was attacking you personally? I think I made it pretty clear who that post was directed towards. Also not sure why you assume that I'm a democrat that's voting for Hillary, I'm neither of those things.
Old plug Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 I have not called anyone a republican or a Democrate or or even indicated who or if I a even going to vote for. I was making a point that what you said can be verified. Personnally your sounding like someone with a guilty concious to me.
Mitch f Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 21 minutes ago, DainW said: Come on man I never actually called you a racist. What I said was that I can't understand is that people who supposedly stand for a certain set of principles and have harshly criticized one president for standing for the opposite of those principles while supporting a candidate that's even worse in a lot of respects than the current president on those principles. When I look at the situation from that standpoint, the only reason that I can see for this group of people supporting this candidate is that they are reacting to racial dog-whistles. If you feel like that's an unfair assessment you should tell me why you support him (assuming you're a conservative) when his campaign flies in the face of so many principles that conservatives are supposed to stand for. Seriously though, this is why we probably shouldn't talk politics on a fishing forum. I mean I don't post here a lot, but when I have all of you guys have been very forthcoming with information, Mitch, Smalliebigs, Flysmallie etc. I also read posts on here A LOT and you guys are a treasure trove of information. I don't think politics can really be discussed in an online forum the way it can be over a beer or on a long drive to a fishing trip. What you guys have read is just my opinion. I'm not trying to offend anyone here or insinuate that anyone is a racist. I don't really know any of you personally I'm sure you're all great people and TBH I'm ready for this election to be over already so we can all get back to talking about fishing. I'm just strongly opinionated and I have a hard time not throwing my two cents in on something like this. No, you didn't personally call me a racist, but as a reluctant Trump supporter I am considered one I guess. This country cracks me up....Barack Obama claims racism is in our DNA. Well, if that's the case, how did a black man get elected twice in the past few years? Why does interracial marriage have an 80% approval rating? How can 50% of the country be racist when interracial marriage has an 80% approval rating? My point being that the racism brand is a useful tool being used by the left. Old plug 1 "Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor
Flysmallie Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, Old plug said: Personnally your sounding like someone with a guilty concious to me. THIS is why our government is the way that it is. They do nothing for us except try to divide us. And too many of you fall for that. I'll stay out from now on. But I don't have any tolerance for people throwing around the racism tag. It's stupid. If you want to call Trump a racist you go right ahead. I don't care. But don't come on here and start calling people that you don't know racists, that's just dumb. I can guarantee you I'm the farthest thing from a racists you have ever seen, my conscious is crystal clear.
Old plug Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 4 minutes ago, Flysmallie said: THIS is why our government is the way that it is. They do nothing for us except try to divide us. And too many of you fall for that. I'll stay out from now on. But I don't have any tolerance for people throwing around the racism tag. It's stupid. If you want to call Trump a racist you go right ahead. I don't care. But don't come on here and start calling people that you don't know racists, that's just dumb. I can guarantee you I'm the farthest thing from a racists you have ever seen, my conscious is crystal clear. I did not do that. I could really care less what you are. Only thing I said was I wondered if some did not have white hoods hanging in the closet. I do not know if they do or not. But I know they are alive and well all over the country.
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