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And that is how you have a very good chance of 18+ inch smalljaws. They are special in a river but it is attainable on a regular basis and still bloody stinking fun on the lakes.

100% correct. Reasonable to expect 10-20 fish on a slow day on those lakes, fishing small stuff. A good day will be 100+. In all seriousness.

Rivers have a special charm, but I'll take a good mixed rock point loaded with 14"-18" brown fish, with 20' or more of water to dig in.

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Personally on a Summer day in a canoe I would never be on the Current. Is the fishing good? Yep. But the level of douchebaggery is extremely high on that river. 

The upper Big Piney is much more pleasant. I have no idea about the special management area but up above Boiling Springs it is awesome. 

 

 

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Sure I'd like to catch a big un' but catching at least 1 of any size will be good enough for me,,,it's just a shame we don't have em' in So. Eastern Illinois. I have been

seriously considering cleaning out my pond and stocking it with Smallies,,,,just so I can catch a few now and then.

without having to drive forever.

 

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Here's a question that's a little off topic, but I have always wondered. Is the river fishing better in the central/eastern partof the state than the sw part of the state? I feel like my home flows are world class but aan I missing out on thE best rivers by hanging 'round here? BTW  I fish the grand river watershed almost exexclusively. 

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Sure I'd like to catch a big un' but catching at least 1 of any size will be good enough for me,,,it's just a shame we don't have em' in So. Eastern Illinois. I have been

seriously considering cleaning out my pond and stocking it with Smallies,,,,just so I can catch a few now and then.

without having to drive forever.

 

If you were in the Table Rock area I'd try to get you in the Ranger for a crack at them.

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dtrs5kprs,

 Thanx, that'd be fun, I didn't know catching a Smallie was gonna be this hard, I've caught thousands of largemouth, I though how hard can it be,,,,wow, have I gotten a reality check.

I'm bound and determined to not give up until I catch at least one...

looking more and more like you guys beautiful state of Mo. may end up being my best chance, without having to drive a half day.

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Murv - Once you go smallmouth you never go back. I consider them to be much better fighters than largemouth bass of the same weight. Also the waters that are most productive for smallmouth are fantastic places. I fish a lot of stream and rivers for smallmouth and you just need a mix of topwater, midwater, and bottom baits. I prefer walk the dog topwaters after they spawn, flukes and marabou jigs all season, and soft bottoms baits, like a soft craw, short worm, etc. There are a lot of resources throughout these forums for bait choices. Pick a couple and get confident in using them and you will catch smallmouth once you go to a place that has them, like the Current, Big Piney, etc.

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Murv,

I lived in southern Illinois for 12 years and had a chance to work in all the bottom 13 counties.  The Cache is a unique river in So. IL but nothing like the clear gravel bottom rivers in the Missouri Ozarks.  We have a place on the upper-mid Meramec (and sponsor the Meramec RIver forum here on OA).  Would be happy to help a fellow southern Illinoisian catch a few smallies.  Check out our website and let me know if we can help out.      Carptracker

Our home-made "carptracker" boat (couldn't afford the new Basstrackers) made a few trips to Kincaid. 

 

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Johnsfolly, I'm afraid you'll be right, I won't want to go back, then I don't know what I'm gonna do, lol.

carptracker, that'd be great, and hey to a fellow So. Illinoisan, I'm afraid when I come to Mo., I'm gonna wanna move....

Al told me the castor river is a good place, if I don't mind to walk, which I don't at all...

where should I start there, and when is a good date to come?, Will they bite there now?, or do I need to wait a few weeks?

 

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