Busted

[Old plug]

i understand what your saying Wrench I hope you have not placed me in that group. You are both smart and LUCKY in health repects. I only wish you more of the same. But your in your 50's. Time marches on for all of us.

[SpoonDog]

6 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

 I have taken to the mindset that I do not require commercial chemicals in order to survive in the world that I was born in.

 

 

....says the guy with the pot jokes.

 I suppose there are people who fake mental disorders, but they have nothing to do with the people who actually have mental disorders.  There's certainly people out there with undiagnosed mental disorders living reasonably healthy lives.  it has no more to do with the people who are seeking medical attention than the guy with the undiagnosed tumor does with the chemo patient.  If you don't want to take a doctor's advice, take drugs, or undergo treatment that's your decision to make, but it has nothing to do with one's moral fiber.  I know folks who's legs have gone green because they didn't go to the doctor and get their diabetes under control.  I know folks who ignored that hacking cough until it was stage four and there was nothing to do but wait for the end.  I know folks who went for the gun because sitting on a couch is for sissies.  I'll be the first person to raise my hand and say asking for help when I need it is among the toughest things for me to do. 

 

But I also understand there's an enormous difference between bravery and egotism. 

 

 

[Mark]

Bet you couldn't stand living very far from your pot dealer. Now I understand you much better. It's OK for you smoke pot to dull your senses from the stresses of everyday life, but darn anyone who goes about it in the legal way by getting prescription drugs. What a hypocrite!! And I am not condemning you for smoking pot or even having a beer or three, but that isn't much different than taking an anxiety pill prescribed by a doctor.

[fishinwrench]

I can pass a piss test at anytime, and have probably consumed less alcohol than any of the preachers around here.

For the 18th time....what I'm saying is that there are too many people out there gobbling up various medications that they don't need to, and shouldn't be.      Turn that comment into whatever forms your desired attitude, but I'm satisfied that it's true.   I am lucky that I don't need any, but so are ALOT of people, they just are too physician dependant to realize it.

[Mitch f]

I think this thread has manifested itself badly, and Maybe it came out the wrong way....but to Wrench's point, think of all the celebs and people that have died from pain medication addiction in the last 20 years. 

My wife refuses to take any meds (a Chinese thing I'm sure) unless it absolutely necessary to save her life. 

[Mark]

OK I did take offense to his comments stereotyping all people with mental illness as just being weak. Sure there are scammers out there, but the legitimately mental ill by far out number the scammers.

[Mitch f]

Just now, Mark said:

OK I did take offense to his comments stereotyping all people with mental illness as just being weak. Sure there are scammers out there, but the legitimately mental ill by far out number the scammers.

Agreed

[Old plug]

Wrench----- The he-- with all this. I have to get up about 5 for my treatment and looked out that window at that flat lake with soft warm rain coming down  and I really wanted to go. I cant , but I sure hope you did. I bet there were more some dandy bass eating baits around there. 

[SpoonDog]

9 minutes ago, Mitch f said:

I think this thread has manifested itself badly, and Maybe it came out the wrong way....but to Wrench's point, think of all the celebs and people that have died from pain medication addiction in the last 20 years. 

My wife refuses to take any meds (a Chinese thing I'm sure) unless it absolutely necessary to save her life. 

No here one is condoning the behavior of people who lie about their condition or abuse prescription meds.  I think what folks are trying to get across is you and I and wrench don't have the background, the education, the training, the skill set to ascertain whether someone else does or doesn't have a disorder requiring some form of treatment.  If you saw Eric Clapton today your first impression probably wouldn't be "Gee, this guy's been a trainwreck half his life."   On the other hand there's folks like Morrissey who'll probably never be all puppies and kittens.  Some folks get the flu and wind up with fevers, chills, muscle aches, they're laid up in bed for days and lost fifteen pounds in the process.  I get the sniffles and a sore throat. 

Different people exhibit different symptoms, and I'm willing to admit sussing out who's in genuine need and who's abusing the system is beyond my pay grade. But I'd rather err on the side of caution then hear a kid offed themself because someone didn't know what they were talking about and just thought they needed to harden up.

[fishinwrench]

Good point, Spoon.  I'd like to see the ones that I know darn well just need a boot in the rear knock it off though.

Old plug, the finesse bite is good.  Get out there and just take it slow.