abkeenan Posted August 24, 2016 Posted August 24, 2016 On 8/20/2016 at 5:16 PM, Rodmaker said: Warmouth? Nope. It's 100% a Goggle Eye. I believe Table Rock does have Warmouth's in it but I've never caught one. I think last year someone on the forums did catch one and posted a pic.
abkeenan Posted August 24, 2016 Posted August 24, 2016 Did a search on the forums and found this from awhile back: That is an Ozark Bass, which is endemic to the White River. The Shadow bass which looks very similar to the Ozark Bass is endemic to the Black River. Finally, the rock bass is found in the Northern Ozark Stream and through out the Mid and North US. Other Sunfish Species in TR include:. Bluegill Green Sunfish Warmouth Longear Sunfish Redear Sunfish Donna G, vernon, Johnsfolly and 3 others 6
cheesemaster Posted August 24, 2016 Posted August 24, 2016 Thanks Abs - I hear a lot of people from around here (table rock area) call the sunfish and bluegill "Perch" all the time. Whats up with that? Perch are completely different from the above pics and I am talking about experienced angles. Or am I missing something?
Johnsfolly Posted August 24, 2016 Posted August 24, 2016 That is one of the hard parts about talking with folks about different fish species. There are a lot of local names being used to describe the same fish. I had a guy tell me down at the Current river that I had caught a German speckled trout instead of a brown trout. Now I have heard brown trout being called German browns, which I can understand since they were originally imported in from Europe around the 1880's. Never heard of them referred to as German Speckled trout. I have heard of brook trout being called speckled trout. Crappie and bluegill are known as specs and bream (or brim) down in Florida. I'm sure that Ham could provide some of the Cajun names for crappie, bowfin, etc. I have also had guys tell me that green sunfish are rock bass and that goggle-eye (aka N. rock bass, Ozark, and shadow bass) are red-eyed bass though there is an actual black bass species in Alambama/Georgia known as the redeye bass that live in water where you would think to find trout. As a guy that likes to fish for a lot of different species (I also have a tendency to try to be taxonomically accurate; kind of obsessive about that aspect) I often need to see a picture or better description of the fish when they give me a local name.
abkeenan Posted August 24, 2016 Posted August 24, 2016 13 minutes ago, cheesemaster said: Thanks Abs - I hear a lot of people from around here (table rock area) call the sunfish and bluegill "Perch" all the time. Whats up with that? Perch are completely different from the above pics and I am talking about experienced angles. Or am I missing something? It's a regional or local thing. You are correct in that local people around Table Rock just lump the green sunfish, longear sunfish and bluegill into one category of "perch" which is entirely incorrect being that a "Perch" is an actual specific species of fish. I believe Bull Shoals actually has "true" perch but haven't ever heard of anyone on Table Rock catching one. My grandfather would call green sunfish "Black Perch" and I do not know why. Maybe because they get so dark when they grow larger and their pigment darkens in the sun when they are up shallow in the warm water months???? Not sure on that. He would also call the longear sunfish a "pumpkin seed" and I am not sure where that came from either but that seems to be a common reference to them on a national level.
Fish24/7 Posted August 24, 2016 Posted August 24, 2016 1 hour ago, abkeenan said: My grandfather would call green sunfish "Black Perch" some of the best live catfish bait
Fish24/7 Posted August 24, 2016 Posted August 24, 2016 1 hour ago, abkeenan said: I believe Bull Shoals actually has "true" perch big yellow one's
cheesemaster Posted August 24, 2016 Posted August 24, 2016 13 minutes ago, Fish24/7 said: big yellow one's Stocked I assume? Fish24/7 1
Fish24/7 Posted August 24, 2016 Posted August 24, 2016 10 minutes ago, cheesemaster said: Stocked I assume? by an unknown source i believe it's a mystery,lol
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