Feral Hogs are getting out of hand

[Chief Grey Bear]

23 minutes ago, Quillback said:

Well quite frankly your reasoning is also immaterial, and now you're bringing high fence operations into it which have nothing to do with birds,(and bear wrestiling? LOL).  And you're also implying that MDC, which according to you, suspects pen raised birds of spreading disease, but won't take action because it may interfere with the few commercial enterprises that raise game birds.  Have MDC biologists gone to the legislature and asked them to outlaw raising game birds?   If they haven't, which I doubt, I don't think it is because they are afraid the legislature will give them a hard time, I would think it is because they don't see it as a realistic threat to wildlife populations.

Precisely why I said it is not an epidemic. But it can reduce local populations and in some extreme cases wipe them out. And then you get into the whole genetics of the situation. But there's not much use in explaining any of it to you you've already decided it is not true. Yet you have never spoken to a biologist on the subject either. 

[Phil Lilley]

4 minutes ago, Chief Grey Bear said:

Pretend?

First you said if it's heart beats it is regulated with seasons and limits. And that is not true. Hogs have no season and no limits. The same is true with every species of carp.

And on a side note, when make the claim that it is fact, it ceases to be a personal thought. 

I thought there were limits on suckers.

[Chief Grey Bear]

Are suckers in the carp family?

I thought all carp had been imported?

[Chief Grey Bear]

40 minutes ago, Chief Grey Bear said:

Precisely why I said it is not an epidemic. But it can reduce local populations and in some extreme cases wipe them out. And then you get into the whole genetics of the situation. But there's not much use in explaining any of it to you you've already decided it is not true. Yet you have never spoken to a biologist on the subject either. 

Hey Quill, this post sounds a little snotty. I didn't mean for it to come out that way. 

[BilletHead]

   Yes even carp have a limit,

https://huntfish.mdc.mo.gov/fishing/species/carp/carp-limits

     BilletHead

[fishinwrench]

59 minutes ago, Chief Grey Bear said:

Pretend?

First you said if it's heart beats it is regulated with seasons and limits. And that is not true. Hogs have no season and no limits. The same is true with every species of carp.

And on a side note, when make the claim that it is fact, it ceases to be a personal thought. 

The fact that you're gonna hold me to that literally, and ignore everything else, tells me that I've won that portion of this argument.   You know darn well what I meant.  

 

[ozark trout fisher]

15 minutes ago, BilletHead said:

   Yes even carp have a limit,

https://huntfish.mdc.mo.gov/fishing/species/carp/carp-limits

     BilletHead

Just for the sake of clarity, they do not.

Not trying to point out an error, but there is no limit on carp in MO and you absolutely should keep every dang one you catch. If you're into that.

Suckers, redhorse, etc are native and have harvest limits.

[Chief Grey Bear]

22 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

The fact that you're gonna hold me to that literally, and ignore everything else, tells me that I've won that portion of this argument.   You know darn well what I meant.  

 

I'm not sure anybody ever knows what you meant.

[Chief Grey Bear]

Marty, per your link;

 

Goldfish, bighead carp, common carp, grass carp, and silver carp may be possessed in any number and do not count in the daily or possession limit.

Bighead carp, common carp, grass carp, and silver carp that jump from the water into a boat or onto land may also be taken and possessed in any number.

[fishinwrench]

14 minutes ago, Chief Grey Bear said:

I'm not sure anybody ever knows what you meant.

It really wasn't that deep, dude.