BSSP 2017

[BilletHead]

  Am I looking at it wrong Wrench? Isn't this the budget for the whole state in general  and the Missouri Department of conservation only gets that 0.6% to run their department?  Lets take the 8% is for the department of transportation? 26.5% is for schools?

BilletHead

[fishinwrench]

Oh OK....Whew!    I thought that was strictly the MDC's budget.   LMAO!

Wouldn't have surprised me, but Wow.  Now I understand why they published that.... They are whining for more money. ?

So health insurance, meetings and party's.  That's where our tax dollars go.

[Old plug]

wrench...... intake and expendatures for the MDC are on the next page. I was lookng at those yeasterday. I see they have spent less this year than last. Do not find  any fault with them. You can be 100% certain ithat was a federal goverment agency there would be no un spent dollars. uncle Sam does not like to see leftover money in any off his agences. As a matter of fact he will punsh  aagency for not spending it all. Truth be told from what I SEE MDC looks like a bunch of choir boys. 

Yeah sure.

If there is any waste and fault it wiil be hidden in disbursments 

[Old plug]

If you all want to find out where they waisted money you have to dig into all their disbusments to do this one of you is going to have to find these records on the internet. Then read every last  disbursement was far and its cost. If they are waisting are misusing it will be under one of those headings. For example. They might have had a night out for themselves. Then put the bill for it under human services and called it training or meeting.

!NOW if you have gotten to this point your gong to have to prove the meeting was nothin more than a drinking binge. Enjoy yourselves. 

 

[laker67]

About them fish otters. With all of the trappers converging to the stream at bennett, you might want to be careful where you step while wading. Just saying. 

[SpoonDog]

36 minutes ago, laker67 said:

About them fish otters. With all of the trappers converging to the stream at bennett, you might want to be careful where you step while wading. Just saying. 

It just adds an extra dimension to combat fishing!

[Chief Grey Bear]

5 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

Oh OK....Whew!    I thought that was strictly the MDC's budget.   LMAO!

Wouldn't have surprised me, but Wow.  Now I understand why they published that.... They are whining for more money. ?

So health insurance, meetings and party's.  That's where our tax dollars go.

Knows more about the MDC than the MDC. 

Cant read and understand a simple chart. 

 

[fishinwrench]

Chief, you must have missed the part where I asked if I understood correctly, and gladly accepted being corrected.   Unlike you I don't pretend that I have an accurate understanding of things until I'm reasonably sure that I do.  

I get it that it bothers you that I claim the MDC wastes money like crazy, because everytime I mention it.... HERE YOU COME to claim I'm just too stupid to understand how they operate.  Did it ever occur to you that maybe I had a reason for thinking that?   I have spelled out a bunch of those reasons on here in the past, and I don't recall a single instance where you declared any of those reasons invalid and then explained why they were invalid.   If you had I would have given it a rethink.....And possibly thanked you for setting me straight.  You never do that though, not for me or for anyone else that I've seen.

You disagree with me on EVERYTHING because I have some dirogatory feelings about the MDC, and that's fine, IDGAF, but it would be cool if instead of just calling me an idiot every time I post something that rubs you the wrong way, you'd take the time to explain why I'm wrong, and actually make sense while doing so, instead of just making a post that just says "Wow you are a retard".

Yeah I know...."Your time is too valuable to waste on educating someone so ignorant".  To me that's a chickenshit copout, because there's always plenty of your time to waste repeatedly reminding me of my alleged ignorance everytime I express having even a hint of frustration with our lovely Dept. of Conservation.  

So here's one for ya, since I've been corrected on my snap assumption of that little graph (that I initially only used to crack a joke about Pete killing Minks). The MDC obviously published that article in order to point out "Hey, look, of all the money in the state budget we only get a tiny little sliver...Boo hoo!".  Well if that tidbit of propaganda was important enough for them to publish then why are they pissing so much away by inventing rediculis and ignorant ways to spend it?    The hog thing is a stupid waste of money, the CWD thing is a stupid waste of money, the Spoonbill thing is kinda debatable, it would be cool if they weren't dumping millions upon millions into it and then regulating so that so many of them rot on the banks and guys get sent to prison over the stupid eggs. The LO Walleye project is stupid as heck, and I know you deny the fact that the gigging of gamefish is a problem....but you're wrong, it is.  And there's plenty more points that I'll save because I'm getting tired of typing.

Larry D. comes across as a bit of a kook but I'd say that the dude knows a few things that he just can't blow the whistle on for fear of.....use your imagination.  

True enough, the MDC has done some good stuff that I truly love, but declaring complete satisfaction and pissing in the face of anyone that doesn't is like demanding thankfulness for the abusive parent that pulled your hair out and broke your ribs 14 times during your childhood because...hey....they fed you enough between those times that you didn't starve to death.   Yay!  

What really set me off was when they threatened to gate off a bunch of access areas if their budget ever got cut a little.  Those access areas have been bought and paid for MULTIPLE times over, by us,  and to make a statement like that just freaking wreaks of a nasty rotten government screwing.   The fact that they even mentioned doing that makes me want to spit in their face. And it makes me really skeptical of everything they do....And don't do.  If they want to close accesses then they need to pay us back for them, as well as the equipment they use to maintain them, and fire the agents in charge of overseeing them.  It's only right. 

 

 

 

[Old plug]

I am sure you know wrenchIi I  would not consider you ignorant. For my part ithe post was thrown out there as a general challange to these folks who wonder are assume the goverment is spending this are that. are doing this are that.  i want people to find out and search for the truth. maybe we can understand each other better.

Chief attitudes about things and isses are formed from past experiences. I myself have a nasty attitude about social issues. It shines through in many discussions. 

[Chief Grey Bear]

7 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

Chief, you must have missed the part where I asked if I understood correctly, and gladly accepted being corrected.   Unlike you I don't pretend that I have an accurate understanding of things until I'm reasonably sure that I do.  

I get it that it bothers you that I claim the MDC wastes money like crazy, because everytime I mention it.... HERE YOU COME to claim I'm just too stupid to understand how they operate.  Did it ever occur to you that maybe I had a reason for thinking that?   I have spelled out a bunch of those reasons on here in the past, and I don't recall a single instance where you declared any of those reasons invalid and then explained why they were invalid.   If you had I would have given it a rethink.....And possibly thanked you for setting me straight.  You never do that though, not for me or for anyone else that I've seen.

You disagree with me on EVERYTHING because I have some dirogatory feelings about the MDC, and that's fine, IDGAF, but it would be cool if instead of just calling me an idiot every time I post something that rubs you the wrong way, you'd take the time to explain why I'm wrong, and actually make sense while doing so, instead of just making a post that just says "Wow you are a retard".

Yeah I know...."Your time is too valuable to waste on educating someone so ignorant".  To me that's a chickenshit copout, because there's always plenty of your time to waste repeatedly reminding me of my alleged ignorance everytime I express having even a hint of frustration with our lovely Dept. of Conservation.  

So here's one for ya, since I've been corrected on my snap assumption of that little graph (that I initially only used to crack a joke about Pete killing Minks). The MDC obviously published that article in order to point out "Hey, look, of all the money in the state budget we only get a tiny little sliver...Boo hoo!".  Well if that tidbit of propaganda was important enough for them to publish then why are they pissing so much away by inventing rediculis and ignorant ways to spend it?    The hog thing is a stupid waste of money, the CWD thing is a stupid waste of money, the Spoonbill thing is kinda debatable, it would be cool if they weren't dumping millions upon millions into it and then regulating so that so many of them rot on the banks and guys get sent to prison over the stupid eggs. The LO Walleye project is stupid as heck, and I know you deny the fact that the gigging of gamefish is a problem....but you're wrong, it is.  And there's plenty more points that I'll save because I'm getting tired of typing.

Larry D. comes across as a bit of a kook but I'd say that the dude knows a few things that he just can't blow the whistle on for fear of.....use your imagination.  

True enough, the MDC has done some good stuff that I truly love, but declaring complete satisfaction and pissing in the face of anyone that doesn't is like demanding thankfulness for the abusive parent that pulled your hair out and broke your ribs 14 times during your childhood because...hey....they fed you enough between those times that you didn't starve to death.   Yay!  

What really set me off was when they threatened to gate off a bunch of access areas if their budget ever got cut a little.  Those access areas have been bought and paid for MULTIPLE times over, by us,  and to make a statement like that just freaking wreaks of a nasty rotten government screwing.   The fact that they even mentioned doing that makes me want to spit in their face. And it makes me really skeptical of everything they do....And don't do.  If they want to close accesses then they need to pay us back for them, as well as the equipment they use to maintain them, and fire the agents in charge of overseeing them.  It's only right. 

 

 

 

I have taken the time to explain. And I am not the only one. There have been many others. You just continue to argue using baseless, factless opinion as it were the gospel. 

If you actually spent a tenth of the amount of time researching your wild claims of massive mismanagement, stupidity and laziness of the MDC as you do roaming the Internet boasting of your superior intelligence, you might learn just a little bit more.

But here's the deal. Bash the MDC all you want. It's easy to do when they ain't around. But don't start crying when it happens to you.