Graphs/Maps with Marcus

[WeekendWarrior]

Those of you who visit this page as well as the BassingBob page there is a good article in the newsletter with Marcus Sykora on how he uses his maps/graphs as well as a video set to come out next week, intro looked great, can't wait to see full video 

[fishinwrench]

For me the trouble with deep water structure fishing on LO is that almost everything below 10-12' is blanketed in a 2 foot layer of silty goo.   

The little drop offs and ditches shown on topo maps are all smoothed over (buried in silt) like a 10" blanket of snow smoothes over the landscape in your yard.   Exposed rocks and long standing wood cover like stumps and such are pretty rare except in certain areas that remain clean on the bottom either because of current or heavy boat traffic turbulence.   

Very few of those "key areas" Marcus is gonna school you on are worth your time unless you or someone else has planted enough cover on them.   Fishing your planted brushpiles IMO is akin to hunting baited deer.  For some weird reason I can't explain I get more gratification by finding and catching fish from a piece of cover that either occured naturally or was planted by someone else than I do by fishing cover that I planted myself.   But if winning tournaments fishing deeper water was the main reason why I loved to fish then you can bet I'd be a brush hauling fool.  

[nomolites]

The new restrictions on brush will slow that down; I personally don't care how it got there as long as the object holds fish.  I have seen sunken cars, boat docks, and lifts that give up better fish than some of the brush people have put out.  The good stuff needs to be in the proximity of one of those breaks or contours that naturally funnel fish.  I LOVE it when I find something placed in a good spot by a savvy fisherman, there is a ton of brush sunk in the wrong places just to get it out of someone's way.

Mike

[nomolites]

BTW, The walleye I chase are often on that brush with the bass...

Mike

[fishinwrench]

What are the new restrictions on brush?  I must have missed that.

[WeekendWarrior]

2 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

For me the trouble with deep water structure fishing on LO is that almost everything below 10-12' is blanketed in a 2 foot layer of silty goo.   

The little drop offs and ditches shown on topo maps are all smoothed over (buried in silt) like a 10" blanket of snow smoothes over the landscape in your yard.   Exposed rocks and long standing wood cover like stumps and such are pretty rare except in certain areas that remain clean on the bottom either because of current or heavy boat traffic turbulence.   

Very few of those "key areas" Marcus is gonna school you on are worth your time unless you or someone else has planted enough cover on them.   Fishing your planted brushpiles IMO is akin to hunting baited deer.  For some weird reason I can't explain I get more gratification by finding and catching fish from a piece of cover that either occured naturally or was planted by someone else than I do by fishing cover that I planted myself.   But if winning tournaments fishing deeper water was the main reason why I loved to fish then you can bet I'd be a brush hauling fool.  

I sort of disagree with you, structure is structure. And when Marcus is talking fishing I am listening ?. Yes I agree there is plenty of silt over the years on places but a sharp break will still be a sharp break and so forth. The worse thing I see is when I go into a pocket and it is full of leaves that people have blown in there in the fall. I have a spot I got lucky and found in a silted in spot with what I think is a big log laying flat and over the years has created a drop on the down current side of it which I have caught several good ones out of in that silted in spot with a small depression.

as for brush piles I enjoy catching fish out of piles I have placed or that I have found, doesn't matter. These days with the electronics people have they won't be YOUR piles for long. It is much easier to catch fish out of someone else's brush pile because it is work to make your own that's for sure. I think I had around 300 waypoints when I moved here and I am now well over 900 waypoints with most all waypoints not being my piles.

[WeekendWarrior]

10 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

What are the new restrictions on brush?  I must have missed that.

Me to

[nomolites]

My understanding is a permit from Ameren is required to sink anything at this point.  Don't know how long that has been a requirement - I think it was close on the heels of the rip rap guidelines.

Mike

 

[fishinwrench]

18 minutes ago, nomolites said:

My understanding is a permit from Ameren is required to sink anything at this point.  Don't know how long that has been a requirement - I think it was close on the heels of the rip rap guidelines.

Mike

 

So it's still legal to throw a rock, or a stick.  

But now there are gonna be regulations on how big the Rock and stick can be ?  

That's funny. I wish them luck with that. ?

[MOPanfisher]

So who is enforcing that rule.  Since Ameren doesn't patrol I don't see the point in making a rule that can't be enforced.