On UV materials

[tjm]

so it appears that down to about 25m/75' color is not going to make lot of difference as far as being seen. So since all cats are gray in the dark ... just count on contrast, as I have found in practice. As it happens my creek is <20' in deepest place I've found.

[fishinwrench]

53 minutes ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

The correspondence of a color to a specific wavelength is called spectral color. White and black are excluded from this definition because they do not have specific wavelengths. White is not defined as a color because it is the sum of all possible colors. Black is not defined as a color because it is the absence of light, and therefore color.

Regardless of what it is defined as, it is a color choice among fishing lures that fish can see.....and that's what is being studied here.   Or am I not properly in touch with the scientific transgression  going on here?

[snagged in outlet 3]

1 minute ago, fishinwrench said:

Regardless of what it is defined as, it is a color choice among fishing lures that fish can see.....and that's what is being studied here.   Or am I not properly in touch with the scientific transgression  going on here?

Just passing on info I got from the physics shack.  I don't think it has anything to do with fishing.  Although we did cool stuff in the physics labs in college.  Chem lab too.  Labs were the best part of college.  I wish I still had my drosophila colony.  I chose to select mine for stunted wings.  Made counting and caring for them easy.  The ones who chose eye color or whatever were constantly tryin to keep them from flying out of the aquarium. 

[nomolites]

2 hours ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

Just passing on info I got from the physics shack.  I don't think it has anything to do with fishing.  Although we did cool stuff in the physics labs in college.  Chem lab too.  Labs were the best part of college.  I wish I still had my drosophila colony.  I chose to select mine for stunted wings.  Made counting and caring for them easy.  The ones who chose eye color or whatever were constantly tryin to keep them from flying out of the aquarium. 

One of the few classes I aced....

Mike

[moguy1973]

21 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

Why is there never any mention of black or white in those color visibility graphs ?

Like snagged said the colors we see are what wavelengths of light that are reflected off something.  Something that is blue really isn't blue, it just reflects blue wavelengths off of it and absorbs all other wavelengths.  Black and white are different because black things absorb all colors without reflecting any visible wavelengths and white is the opposite reflecting all colors without absorbing any.  That's why black things are warmer than white things typically.  As far as colors of baits down deep, once you get past the point that each color can penetrate it will start to look black.  Its why deep down in the ocean everything looks black and blue because blue light penetrates farther than any other color wavelength. 

[tjm]

And then there the iridescents like the indigo bunting that looks blue in sunlight but is black in shade and complimentary colors that cancel each other out. "Most of what a trout eats is 3/8" long and brown"

[moguy1973]

Here's something I just saw over on Bass Resource that throws a wrench in things.

https://www.technologicalangler.com/bass-color-vision

https://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/221947-are-lures-made-for-people-not-fish/

[fishinwrench]

Flash from a reflective bait is probably equally insignificant as well.   Since the light is coming from above the surface....and no bait has light bending capabilities.

Those flickers of light that we see coming from a school of shad are likely only seen by eagles and osprey's.  

I notice when playing with baits in the swimming pool that you never see flashes of light reflecting off the sides or bottom of the pool, below the bait.  So even though I'll pick a gold bladed spinnerbait almost every time....it probably doesn't matter.... unless I am fishing for eagles and osprey's.