Hp restriction

[Jdecoudres]

A few years ago I had heard that Arkansas Fish and game was talking about putting a hp restriction on the white. Curious if anyone else had heard that or knows of this is coming for the future?  

[netboy]

11 hours ago, Jdecoudres said:

A few years ago I had heard that Arkansas Fish and game was talking about putting a hp restriction on the white. Curious if anyone else had heard that or knows of this is coming for the future?  

I haven't heard of any HP restrictions being discussed  by AGFC.

AGFC updated their Trout Management Plan for the Bull Shoals tailwater in 2017 and there was nothing in that plan about horsepower restrictions. 

[snagged in outlet 3]

Plenty of room on the white, don't see a need for it.  Maybe @mojorig has some info.  

[Jdecoudres]

12 hours ago, netboy said:

I haven't heard of any HP restrictions being discussed  by AGFC.

AGFC updated their Trout Management Plan for the Bull Shoals tailwater in 2017 and there was nothing in that plan about horsepower restrictions. 

Thanks guys, I had just heard that a few years ago but nothing since then and didn't know how true it was. 

 

[sfiser]

this was brought up at one of the AGFC trout meetings a few years back but nothing was ever put in place.  I could see them coming out with some sort of restriction from bull shoals dam to maybe the mouth of the buffalo or something like that.  I had a guy fly past me at probably 45 mph in a bassboat above cotter this summer (when the water was high) and that seemed insanely dangerous with canoes and kayaks also on the river.  I think we may at some point see a HP restriction, I know several guides who are lobbying for one also.

[gotmuddy]

I hope they do not put one on,  The last thing we need is more restrictions.

[sfiser]

i am for all for one, like max 60hp.  I don't know if you have ever been out there on a weekend when its packed but its dangerous the way some folks fly up and down that river.  When the restrictions are for the good of the river (wakes are already erroding some of the banks) and safety they are needed.  Its only a matter of time before a kayaker or boater gets hit and killed b someone running way to fast in the fog.  Also the new fishing restrictions on the white have really improved our brown trout fishing and bigger rainbows are showing up more regularly, so not all restrictions are bad

[snagged in outlet 3]

1 hour ago, sfiser said:

When the restrictions are for the good of the river (wakes are already erroding some of the banks) and safety they are needed.

I would think 16k or 20k cfs release would do more damage than any boat.  And... When they are running that kind of water what max horsepower is the limit that doesn't exclude boats that aren't going that fast but need a little more HP to operate safely?  With all due respect.

[Terrierman]

1 hour ago, sfiser said:

i am for all for one, like max 60hp.  I don't know if you have ever been out there on a weekend when its packed but its dangerous the way some folks fly up and down that river.  When the restrictions are for the good of the river (wakes are already erroding some of the banks) and safety they are needed.  Its only a matter of time before a kayaker or boater gets hit and killed b someone running way to fast in the fog.  Also the new fishing restrictions on the white have really improved our brown trout fishing and bigger rainbows are showing up more regularly, so not all restrictions are badSta

Stay off of Taneycomo unless you got some really good heart medications.

[sfiser]

2 hours ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

I would think 16k or 20k cfs release would do more damage than any boat.  And... When they are running that kind of water what max horsepower is the limit that doesn't exclude boats that aren't going that fast but need a little more HP to operate safely?  With all due respect.

Also a good point.  There has to be a happy medium but I don’t think a bass boat with a 150 or a jet ski (yep I’ve seen jet skis on the white) have a place on that river running full tilt.  

At some point there will be an accident and something will have to be done.  I don’t like kayaks on the river with 8 units running and fog all over the river but I see them out there all the time..... just seems like eventually someone is going to get hurt or killed due to lack of common sense and that’s when we will see some sort of restriction put in place.  I think the canoes and kayaks are equally as dangerous as the speed boats but for different reasons, I’ve rescued multiple kayakers who have gotten swamped in big water and we’re clinging to trees or floating down the middle of the river.