1-3-21 Crappie Report

[Seth]

3 hours ago, DADAKOTA said:

Can't catch fish if you can't find fish.  The Scope sure makes the finding part much easier.  Apparently helps you manipulate your bait over the top of deep cover avoiding hangups.  Definitely an aid to catching fish.

Side imaging is for finding the fish and cover. Livescope just allows you make the perfect presentation once you find said fish or cover.

[slothman]

12 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

It's going to be interesting to see how many folks just get tired of it, and give up on fishing.     It is all pretty new and fascinating NOW, but that will wear off in a couple years.  

I can definitely see that happening. I can see some people becoming really frustrated when they can see them, but can’t get them to eat. I can also see some people becoming bored of that style of fishing over time. The guys I’ve fished with that have been very proficient have told me that they feel like it is really like cheating. I’ve watched a guy catch them one after the other where they were suspended 65 feet down in 110 feet of water. There is no way he could have done what he was doing without livescope, but while it was cool to see, I think that style of fishing could get really old quickly for a lot of guys. 

[Seth]

9 hours ago, slothman said:

I can definitely see that happening. I can see some people becoming really frustrated when they can see them, but can’t get them to eat. I can also see some people becoming bored of that style of fishing over time. The guys I’ve fished with that have been very proficient have told me that they feel like it is really like cheating. I’ve watched a guy catch them one after the other where they were suspended 65 feet down in 110 feet of water. There is no way he could have done what he was doing without livescope, but while it was cool to see, I think that style of fishing could get really old quickly for a lot of guys. 

Where's the law that says you HAVE to use forward facing sonar to catch fish? I mean, if you truly get tired of using something then sell it or don't turn it on. People stuff, use it, get tired of it and sell it all the time. I'm not sure I've ever heard somebody say that they didn't enjoy fishing because they went out and whacked on them every time. I've never heard anybody say they'd rather go "fishing" than "catching". I'm gone out plenty of times and strictly threw topwater knowing I could catch more using something else. Why? Becuase I can and because that's how I PREFERRED to fish that day. If I wanted to go out and try to catch a limit of something without using sonar then I just leave the sonar off that day even though it seems kind of backwards since you bought it as a tool to help you put more fish in the boat in the first place. It's like saying I would rather use a sledge hammer to bust of a concrete pad when I have a jack hammer laying next to it.

[snagged in outlet 3]

59 minutes ago, Seth said:

I'm gone out plenty of times and strictly threw topwater knowing I could catch more using something else.

I chase winter river smallies knowing it's more than likely going to be a bust....  Those devils are sure picky in 40 degree water.

[fishinwrench]

1 hour ago, Seth said:

Where's the law that says you HAVE to use forward facing sonar to catch fish? I mean, if you truly get tired of using something then sell it or don't turn it on. People stuff, use it, get tired of it and sell it all the time. I'm not sure I've ever heard somebody say that they didn't enjoy fishing because they went out and whacked on them every time. I've never heard anybody say they'd rather go "fishing" than "catching". I'm gone out plenty of times and strictly threw topwater knowing I could catch more using something else. Why? Becuase I can and because that's how I PREFERRED to fish that day. If I wanted to go out and try to catch a limit of something without using sonar then I just leave the sonar off that day even though it seems kind of backwards since you bought it as a tool to help you put more fish in the boat in the first place. It's like saying I would rather use a sledge hammer to bust of a concrete pad when I have a jack hammer laying next to it.

I'll try to explain it....

There's a difference between knowing for a fact that fish are there but you can't catch them, and wondering if maybe they just aren't there.   I don't know about everyone else, but I can only spend so much time sight-fishing to fish that simply will not bite.    

Before Livescope there was always an unknown element that tends to keep your hopes up... and keeps you trying.   So now that you KNOW you're gonna get your @$$ handed to you today...... what's the point in putting yourself through it?   

You might as well go home and clean out your attic and garage. Or go power wash the deck. 😅

[conorsixtakc]

32 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

I'll try to explain it....

There's a difference between knowing for a fact that fish are there but you can't catch them, and wondering if maybe they just aren't there.   I don't know about everyone else, but I can only spend so much time sight-fishing to fish that simply will not bite.    

Before Livescope there was always an unknown element that tends to keep your hopes up... and keeps you trying.   So now that you KNOW you're gonna get your @$$ handed to you today...... what's the point in putting yourself through it?   

You might as well go home and clean out your attic and garage. Or go power wash the deck. 😅

Agree with that for the most part, but if you’ve invested in the tool and are trying to consistently make some money on a trail I’d imagine you’re going to use it no matter what.

You know “biting” doesn’t always mean “eating” either, pissing off a female on a bed that’s staring at you and guarding eggs is a different ballgame than those suspended fish :)

[Seth]

1 hour ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

I chase winter river smallies knowing it's more than likely going to be a bust....  Those devils are sure picky in 40 degree water.

It's amazing how much of a difference those couple of degrees make. I can smoke them when it's 42 degrees, but it goes down hill in a hurry below that. Anything sub 40 really makes for a tough bite.

[Seth]

40 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

I'll try to explain it....

There's a difference between knowing for a fact that fish are there but you can't catch them, and wondering if maybe they just aren't there.   I don't know about everyone else, but I can only spend so much time sight-fishing to fish that simply will not bite.    

Before Livescope there was always an unknown element that tends to keep your hopes up... and keeps you trying.   So now that you KNOW you're gonna get your @$$ handed to you today...... what's the point in putting yourself through it?   

You might as well go home and clean out your attic and garage. Or go power wash the deck. 😅

I agree with you if you're looking at it from a high end tournament perspective. That's a very small portion of anglers though. Most guys just want to go out and catch something for dinner and a used $300 side imaging unit can drastically improve your chances at doing that.

[snagged in outlet 3]

32 minutes ago, Seth said:

It's amazing how much of a difference those couple of degrees make. I can smoke them when it's 42 degrees, but it goes down hill in a hurry below that. Anything sub 40 really makes for a tough bite.

39 WT with skim ice last weekend.  

[fishinwrench]

Guys are out there right now, walking docks and filling buckets with 10-11 inchers while the snow is falling sideways.   

🤔 I think I'll pass. 😅