Is This The New Normal

[tjm]

And if you had had a heart attack? Was he CPR qualified?

What if you had reacted violently with a fight reflex?

Doesn't seem like behavior that an employer should encourage and seems unrelated to any "work ethic", but maybe that's just me. 

[ness]

16 minutes ago, tjm said:

And if you had had a heart attack? Was he CPR qualified?

What if you had reacted violently with a fight reflex?

Doesn't seem like behavior that an employer should encourage and seems unrelated to any "work ethic", but maybe that's just me. 

Oh geez. You’d have never lasted 🤪

[tjm]

Probably not. But he wouldn't have either.

[ness]

1 hour ago, tjm said:

Probably not. But he wouldn't have either.

We’ve all lasted and, well, done pretty good. 



 

[ness]

11 hours ago, tjm said:

Probably not. But he wouldn't have either.

I didn’t think to say it last night, but he didn’t just last, he later became president of the bank!

He left after 30+ years and is now CFO of a global non-profit institution. 

[Lancer09]

On 3/17/2025 at 7:52 PM, tjm said:

And if you had had a heart attack? Was he CPR qualified?

What if you had reacted violently with a fight reflex?

Doesn't seem like behavior that an employer should encourage and seems unrelated to any "work ethic", but maybe that's just me. 

Even if I don't agree with it, this mentality has been hammered into people my age since I started working in 2006 at 15, and even more so professionally in 2014 after graduate school. Particularly by people who came up in the business like Ness mentioned.

Not a bad thing, and both sides have validity. I think the biggest problem is different generations not understanding each other and figuring out the best way to handle that. 

[ness]

Just got back from lunch with broom-wielding former bank president not 15 minutes ago! We've been friends for 40 years and counting. 

Get the work done, do some extra, have some fun too. 

[Lancer09]

On 3/21/2025 at 1:06 PM, ness said:

Just got back from lunch with broom-wielding former bank president not 15 minutes ago! We've been friends for 40 years and counting. 

Get the work done, do some extra, have some fun too. 

So work for free?

Just playing devil's advocate here. 

[Terrierman]

53 minutes ago, Lancer09 said:

So work for free?

Just playing devil's advocate here. 

Ever hear of delayed gratification?  What goes around comes around.  And that's a fact Jack.

[Flysmallie]

35 minutes ago, Terrierman said:

Ever hear of delayed gratification?  

Sorry to break it to you old guys, but delayed gratification is becoming a thing of the past. It's sad really because those are the principles I was taught and it is the way that I work. But most employers are headed in the other direction. Where they try to squeeze more and more out of people, while giving less and less. 

It's happened to people I know.

It happened in the company I worked for before and it's happening in the company that I work for now. 

It's happening in the company that my wife has worked at for the past 30 years. That 30 years means absolutey nothing to them.

 

It's a different world than it used to be. And if we follow the credance being set by succesful CEOs, nobody should spend any of their time working for free. 

However, I know there are still some great people to work for out there. People that will see that benefit and take care of people. Those are the great places to work.