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Lilley's Lake Taneycomo Fishing Report, March 1

Rain and cold have dominated many days this past month.  We've had snow, ice, sleet and rain, all amounting to some sloppy weekends of travel and fishing here on Lake Taneycomo.  But the diehards stayed tough and enjoyed some great days fishing for trout (and crappie!)

Generation has been nonstop since the first of February.  But the lakes have only risen a little bit and are holding even with the runoff from the last sleet storm.  Beaver and Table Rock lakes are less than a foot above their power pools and Bull Shoals is up 18 inches.  There is no rain in the forecast this week but there is some on the horizon.  And with spring three weeks away, unless we have a dry spring season (which we haven't had in eons), we'll probably looking at nonstop generation for quite a while.

Flows have been bouncing at between two to four units.  That has made for plenty of water to run just about anywhere on the lake including a run to the cable below the dam. Water temperatures have fluctuated, too.  I've measured 45 to 46 degrees, but someone Saturday read 43 degrees while fishing the Vince Elfrink Memorial Tournament.  The colder water tends to slow down the trout bite at times -- at least that's what some have blamed for their slow fishing.

Most mornings, dam operators are running four units, then dropping to three or even two units by noon.  They continue that flow until late in the evening, bumping it up to four again into the night.

I recommend some of the same tips as those in my last report with a few exceptions.  Drifting scuds and eggs are by far the best way to catch both rainbows and browns in the trophy area and below Fall Creek.  That's been the case for months.  And there are two ways to fish them -- with a float or no float.  The best seems to be with a float but that technique is a little more complicated

Capt. Steve Dickey is one of our guides who has perfected this.  He uses a nine-foot fly rod with floating line and runs a long, 12-foot leader from his fly line to the first fly with a slip bobber.  The leader slips through the bobber and stops when it hits his fly line. And he fishes it all very close to the boat.  Here is a Youtube video I shot where he explains this technique.

 

Trout caught between Fall Creek and Trout Hollow, when cleaned, yield lots of scuds in their stomachs.  So our trout are feeding on scuds on the bottom in the upper end of the lake.  Heavy generation causes scuds and sow bugs to be dislodged from their hidden places on the bottom, and trout are keen to watch for these bugs when washed downstream.

 

Use a rig like in Steve's video or just drag a scud on the bottom using a drift rig or just a split shot, but be sure to get it on the bottom.  Scuds found in these trout are various sizes, but some are as big as a #12 fly.  Most are gray, but some are a brown/gray or olive/gray.  And I would stay away from the bluff or deep side of the lake and fish from the middle to the inside bend.

With the flow of water pretty heavy, jerk baits cast and worked along mainly the bluff banks early and late in the day are yielding a few browns and rainbows.  You do have a good chance at a big fish using this method.  Throw a 110+1 Megabass in shad colors, or if you're using a Doty Signature Series, use either a juvenile rainbow or a french pearl.

Dragging jerk baits on the bottom with a drift rig can catch good trout, too, but lately it's been slow going.  Use a 639 suspending bait in shad colors.  It's a short, shallow diving bait that floats. Of course, you can use these baits anywhere on the lake including the trophy area because they are hard baits.

There has been no reports of shad coming through the turbines at the dam, but we have been catching a few trout on white jigs in the trophy area.  They could come through at any time, or may not . . . we never know.

Guides on Monday were drifting night crawlers on the bottom from Fall Creek down, and they brought in limits of decent rainbows.  There have been reports of anglers drifting white or pink Gulp Eggs on the bottom down at the Branson Landing and finding some nice rainbows, too.

When dam operators have dropped the water flow to two units some afternoons, the bite has been better.  The depth of water and flow is easier to manage.

The marabou jig bite has been slow, but there have been some good reports coming in randomly.  Early Monday morning, good rainbows were caught up close to Lookout Island in the slower water there and just down and across the lake on 1/8th-ounce, brown-head sculpin jigs with the red thread.  I was told the red thread made the difference.  Black is also been working on the bluff side from Fall Creek to Short Creek.

 

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Interesting….late /70s early 80s fish ran bigger because less people were fishing….winters over that stretch we had lots of snow and bitter weather….seems I remember gravel being dredged and sold….browns were a new addition…can’t remember when they put the limit on them…..no powerbait back then, cheese, marshmallows, salmon eggs, night crawlers…I liked chunking big spinners…Cleos and when the came out shad raps….never measured trout, weighed them….you could limit out on 3-5 pound bows….Taney will be ether a jet boat tour..Vegas show on the water…or a quality trout fishing hole….right now they are trying to have both….as table rock goes the way of LOZ….you will look back at the good ol days….I’m sure the old floaters opined about how things were before the dams……

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2 hours ago, Phil Lilley said:

In 2018, MDC reduced 20% from 700,000 to 560,000.  And I've already said they were 60k short in 2021 because of water quality issues, mostly fish that were to be stocked this winter.

I agree with you on drawing down the lakes in the winter.  Living below a dam, I know firsthand that gut wrenching feeling of being told to evacuate, several times now.  And here we are again heading into spring and the lakes are being held at power pool instead of being drawn down, even a bit.

But there is this - in 2011 (I think that's the event, could have been 2008), Table Rock was at 907 feet.  The whole watershed got 15 inches of rain in less than a week and they released what was a record release at that time... may be 64,000 cfs.?  They've beat it by 10k in the 2015 winter flood.  Call it global warming or climate change.... whatever.  We are seeing more rain systems just sit on the central midwest in the last 15 years and flood the heck out of some areas (North Fork of the White River).

I would like to ask the management at the Corp - why don't you draw down the lakes like you used to in the 80's and 90's.  I've been told it was the long time manager at Table Rock back in those years and I can't remember his name... anyone???  He was there for a long time.

Seems like they could draw them down 5 feet each over winter without upsetting anyone above each dam.   They do it in the SE lakes every year.   Property owners even plan dock and bulkhead maintenance during those draw downs.  

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1 hour ago, MoCarp said:

Interesting….late /70s early 80s fish ran bigger because less people were fishing….winters over that stretch we had lots of snow and bitter weather….seems I remember gravel being dredged and sold….browns were a new addition…can’t remember when they put the limit on them…..no powerbait back then, cheese, marshmallows, salmon eggs, night crawlers…

You are right about the crowds MoCarp. A busy week day might be 10 and a weekend might be 30. Of those whose fished, majority were local. When Dave Betherum and I started night fishing in 75, the biggest , consistent crowds were at night. They were bait fishermen at the big hole. A guy that everyone called"Doc", was the only one who ever ventured up by us. He would set out a bait rod, and then sit in a lawn chair and fly fish. We mostly caught bigger fish back then because they were there and not so much because we knew anything. But we did learn as we went.

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Thanks Phil for the info on the stocking. Maybe the 60k they were short went to the urban lakes where they can be poached.As for the high water events I really feel sorry for guys like you that have to put up with flood like releases during heavy rains. The Corps will never draw down Table Rock any significant amount in the winter because people with huge investments won't let it happen that own places on the Rock.Any time you have enough money to buy half of Long Creek then take over boat ramps you know they have some pull. Hey Laker 67 you remember the guy from Kimberling City named Horn that used to keep every big rainbow he ever caught.I believe he worked on boats on Table Rock.

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My first time to Taney was around 75.  I was in high school.  My dad dropped me off at outlet #2.  I knew nothing about trout fishing.  I had a Diawa closed face reel with probably 8 pound line and salmon eggs.  Everyone else was using roe including Doc.  Everyone was lined up from the outlet to rebar, shoulder to shoulder facing out waist deep.  I had chest waders on.  Others were on the other side lined up so I tried to wade across.  I walked up about 50 yards above the outlet and tippy-toed across, the water almost going over my waders.  That's how deep it was.

Two days of fishing and no fish while lots and lots of big rainbows were caught and hauled out.  I begged Doc to sell me some eggs.  He bragged about having a freezer full of what he called, "roe gold" or something like that.  At the last hour before dad came back to get me, I finally hooked a big rainbow and landed him.  It was a sow full of eggs.  Doc begged me to let him cut it open and take the eggs.  I was leaving so I relented.

So my one weekend on Taney I remember lots of anglers lined up on both sides, like the trout parks.  If someone hooked a big fish they hollar, "fire in the hole" and everyone would reel in and let him walk down.  A lot of the time they'd go to rebar and lose the fish. 

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3 hours ago, fshndoug said:

Thanks Phil for the info on the stocking. Maybe the 60k they were short went to the urban lakes where they can be poached.As for the high water events I really feel sorry for guys like you that have to put up with flood like releases during heavy rains. The Corps will never draw down Table Rock any significant amount in the winter because people with huge investments won't let it happen that own places on the Rock.Any time you have enough money to buy half of Long Creek then take over boat ramps you know they have some pull. Hey Laker 67 you remember the guy from Kimberling City named Horn that used to keep every big rainbow he ever caught.I believe he worked on boats on Table Rock.

Marty Horn.

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3 hours ago, fshndoug said:

 Hey Laker 67 you remember the guy from Kimberling City named Horn that used to keep every big rainbow he ever caught.I believe he worked on boats on Table Rock.

I remember several of the locals taking home stringers of fish. And also have seen a few return later in the day and fish again. 

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I always wondered if using game fish body parts was a legal thing back then . It certainly is not now. Lots of poaching and trout eggs were used back then. Russ and Doc were the two i knew for a fact. 

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3 hours ago, Phil Lilley said:

So my one weekend on Taney I remember lots of anglers lined up on both sides, like the trout parks.  If someone hooked a big fish they hollar, "fire in the hole" and everyone would reel in and let him walk down.  A lot of the time they'd go to rebar and lose the fish. 

I had forgot people said fire in the hole! Code for get out of my way!

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2 hours ago, laker67 said:

I always wondered if using game fish body parts was a legal thing back then . It certainly is not now. Lots of poaching and trout eggs were used back then. Russ and Doc were the two i knew for a fact. 

If you cure the eggs with sugar or borax you could use them. But they were just putting it on a treble. It wasn’t legal. 

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