Devan S.

Nope not me. I was never really taught how to fly fish....more or less just bought a cheap ready to fish combo and made it work. I figured the leaders like I was doing wasn't much different than spin fishing and it seemed to be a lot easier than tapers and the like.

Woah woah woah.....you mean your supposed to use something besides that? My simpleton brain works like such.....dry flys I use 2lb mono from fly line direct to lure maybe 3 ft. Sub surface- 3x to 7x tippet from fly line straight to lure maybe 3ft. You mean there is another section/sections of line supposed to be used?

Fished between houseman and the island below spider creek. Spent the whole day dragging a shad rap or throwing a Megabass 110+2 Ended the day with one nice 17" rainbow and 1 keeper walleye. I plan on focusing on this area more in the next 6 months have a goal of catching some Arkansas master angler fish. Thinking when the timing is right the opportunity exists for trout(fairly slim), Walleye, and white bass as decent opportunities coming in the next 6 months.

That's impressive....you covered several genres.....

I got out of Tesla right before it really started ripping higher....win some you lose some.....except me I mostly lose. I really ultimately wonder how much of Tesla's valuation is based on pure fad(the robinhood effect) vs. the actual results as a company. I mean do you really think the valuation of the company exceeds that of EVERY other car manufacturer?

You'll have to forgive my base knowledge of micro-organisms.....I'm sure someone can pop on here with the actual logic.....but Its the micro-organisms(bacteria) that consume the 02 to convert the decaying matter into Co2. If I recall these micro-organisms are HIGHLY food dependent meaning if there is nothing for them to consume numbers are relatively low but with ample food they populate at alarming rates as numbers increase O2 decreases and Co2 increases again at rates dependent on population.

you know humans(the most conscious animals on the face of the earth) actually die occasionally from accidentally crawling into something like a tank void of oxygen. Or god forbid a situation where they breath too much CO from a gas heater and die to lack of oxygen. If humans do it what even makes us remotely convinced fish are smart enough to not do it? Do fish have internal O2 meters?

They look pretty cool. If you look at the roaring river live cam, you can see the cages in the raceway they are held in. I figured they were there just to keep them separate .....never thought about them really standing out in the raceway to predator's but makes sense. I think it would be cool to be able to fish them in RR if they turn them loose. I'm not advocating full blown usage but a 40-50 fish novelty during CnR. In the couple weeks after Mar. 1, I would assume they would quickly be fished out. By my recollection this what they look like or very similar too.

Honestly I don't technically know what they are......they look like a yellow colored rainbow.

I don't have a clue RR has been getting trout from Montauk(and a private hatchery I believe) while the construction was on going. I noticed 5 or 6 in a cage in the raceways back several months ago. Now there is probably several dozen in the cage. I am not in the "know" but heard they did not stock any of the goldens during catch n keep season but had heard a rumor they would be kicked out during CnR. I asked about them on the facebook page....several people on there are in the "know" and didn't get a good response. Again just a novelty mostly but I would like to catch one and right in my back yard would be cool.

I meandered down last night right at dark driving through. I was hoping they would dump out the golden trout they received but looks like there still in the raceway at the hatchery. Also one raceway has quite a few good sized fish nothing huge but lots of nicer fish. Hoping they stock those goldens soon as thats on my list.

Woah woah woah.....you hire someone directly on payroll to clean the bathroom? I thought everyone outsourced that job at 3-5X the cost?

I've been put off by the debris mat more times than I can count up Kings fishing for crappie. Also caught some nice ones in the cuts in the debris.

I think they are in a lose/lose situation either way. If they say you cant go to the polls and vote, someone, somewhere WILL construe what they said into they are taking away my "right" and it would be possible that someone can and would be used in a lawsuit to contest an election.

Agreed.....but I don't want willy nilly Joe blow behind me in line coughing. I hope that people are using common sense in that case and seeking out the appropriate path to still exercise their right.

Here's what I don't understand from the hard anti mask crowd. Why not....what do you lose or give up by wearing it? Even if the effectiveness were shown to be a minimal 5% isn't that something better than nothing when compared to the potential downsides? Most of us live in a state where state government hasn't mandated mask but have advised and promoted the wearing of them(at least via lip service). I don't understand how that can be construed as giving up freedom. If the answer is I don't like the government telling me what to do. Then why is this the mole hill you want to take a stand on? Surely you refused to wear seat belts by the same token or refuse to follow basic traffic laws? Refuse to file income taxes? Refuse to purchase guns via background checks? Refused to comply with the ACA mandate when it was required? It just in the grand scheme of things seems so minor to me in the risk vs. reward sense. Especially when you add in the fact that in a lot of cases employers are requiring them but people aren't quitting jobs over masks in any significant numbers. It's almost like if it was mandated suddenly en masse people would be on board but when its advisable suddenly everyone wants to take a stand because there's no "penalty"

I'm not in the medical field and certainly not in a government organization. Just thought I would offer a different perspective. We all get zoned into on what we think is right or wrong and sometimes to look at it in another perspective offers up how bias we all really are.

By the same token, try being a government run health agency and advise risk rates and transmission rates when the data(by your own account) is being padded by FOR PROFIT healthcare providers who are trying to boost/misallocate numbers. I firmly believe the government can/does screw up 99.9% of the things it does but in this case, the best crap they have is still crap and a lot of what they are getting comes from the private sector.

I don't disagree with you. Missouri's largest problem by far is the multispecies thing. We don't put singular focus on any single species on a specific lake. Missouri is good at being jack of all trades and master of none. Yet we have the potential to have specific lakes be really, really good at certain things. BTW I have scoured and scoured MDC and AGFC websites and am struggling to find anything relating to sampling at Stockton lake or Beaver tailwaters. I know they get posted here from time to time as attached PDF's but I cant find them stored historically on their websites. Do you have link for any of them?

The growth rates from the Grenada study are measured directly from the fish from Grenada. The colored maps are USDA hardiness zone maps. They are really in effect just a comparison of the average minimum winter temperature which should at least in some sense corelate to minimum water temperature as an average across the area. I don't know of any study specifically related to the growth of crappie at Stockton lake. It probably doesn't exist. I do however think its a stretch to say growth rates are comparable between Stockton and Grenada. If the growth rate for a white crappie at Grenada is 3.7"/year and Stockton is 3.3"/year(a number I just pulled out of thin air to come up with a 10" LL in year 3) then sure they appear close as absolute numbers however the percent difference ends up being 10% difference in growth rates per year which is sizeable when you start talking about 3-4 years compounded. Walcrabass's concept is that Crappie fisheries in themselves are generally catch and keep, not catch and release like bass. In effect his theory is that the biggest contributor to size structure is the LL. Which is probably correct and IF the growth rate is 3.3"/year then adding a year to go from 3 years age class to 4 year age class to harvest is likely not a big deal. However the danger in doing that is that you in effect add an age class of fish to the lake that has to have the food resource available to survive. If you do this with Crappie the effect may be minimal, add in changing bass, walleye, catfish, and the concern is a situation where your add a significant strain on the food resource in a lake that is designed and managed as a multispecies destination. In my opinion this is the biggest difference between Grenada and Stockton all other things considered. Grenada is managed as a trophy crappie lake to the detriment of all other species(as evidenced by their regulations). Their focus is 99% Crappie for that lake and it works and works well. It is a premier Crappie destination that people travel from all over to visit for one thing and one thing only. They aren't attempting to have significant amounts of "other" species" there in any quality or quantity.

Really want to go down there when the lakes are high and in the woods. Jig pole and waders up in the brush.

Half throttle and trim up high. Really put off some rollers.

My biggest pet peeve on Taney is the guys that come down off plane about 85% and plow until they are by you and then back up.

You get on a couple 16-17 inch smallies every time out it seems. Just pretty fish.

Maybe the LL should be increased on Stockton(I'd personally be okay with it across Missouri)....but comparing Stockton to Grenada is impossible. I follow half a dozen guides, have family down there, and have fished down there. The amount of fish removed daily from those lakes make Stockton look like a catch and release lake. It just doesn't compare. These guides are day in and day out pulling multiple limits out of those lakes. 24/7/365. Our guide always talked about "other" fish as trash fish. You want catfish you go to the river. Despite what the usda grow season maps show....Grenada is 250 miles plus south of Stockton and coincidentally about the same distance to Lake Fork(another area with significant crappie populations and size). Plus gators pretty common around there and never show up at Stockton(despite the Taney gator this year). Not to mention the Delta has some of the most fertile dirt in the county. Tons of timber, fairly shallow, muddy water, lots of "flats", tons of flooded timber in the springs, fertile inflows.