Devan S.

It's been awhile but I don't recall anything of concern between Eagle Rock and houseman at normal levels. I have been up to the Hwy 62 bridge just upstream of houseman in my xpress with prop motor without any problems(IIRC water was high but not crazy). If it were me and I was only looking for trout I would put in at houseman or holiday island to avoid the run. Every time I have put in at houseman to try and catch whites I had trouble keeping the trout off about houseman so there may not be a ton of trout downstream of there. @rps probably would be a better source of information here. When I last floated, I remember the major downstream shallow point was the old bridge piers just above the Hwy 62 bridge. If you can/or have google earth you can use the historical imagery feature to turn back the clock and look at historical imagery. It wont tell you exactly what the water level is/was but will tell you areas that appear out of the water first. For example here is the hwy 62 area in Feb. 2017: The red blob is just upstream from houseman. Blue circle is where the bridge piers are. In Feb 2017 Table Rock was 906-907 so I would expect with the current level and flows you can get through here with ease.

FWIW- The press release I saw on facebook which was probably simplified to general terms for the masses said: Up to 15,000 CFS (based on their webpage only shows about 12,000 cfs or 80% of what they posted they could/would release). about a foot per day (which the only real day it ran without rainfall was the 27th where it dropped between 6 and 8 inches just spit-balling the graph). Releases are weather dependent (looks like they shut something down because the tail water elevation came down over 4 ft. today) BTW it takes a whole lot more water to get rid of 1ft. of elevation @ 1127 than it does @ 1120 so they probably threw out a rough average of total CFS to get to 1120 divided by total estimated time they would release to give an idea.

No worries by me. I just find it funny that according to MDC feeding of deer and eating from concentrated areas promotes the spread of CWD but all the homeowners along the lake and in residential neighborhoods get a pass because they are X number of feet from a house. Like it actually makes a difference how many feet you are from a house on if CWD gets spread but if your a farmer with 1000 acres and you bait then your suddenly spreading it. Quite the double standard. Falls for not just corn but also mineral as well. I cant count the numbers of deer I see by the mineral feeder for the cattle or in the feed pen looking for leftovers. ehhh whatever. I say feed away and shoot them all doesn't matter to me.

Okay I ask because I was fishing a channel roll off on table rock and had several marks suspended in the water roughly 15-18ft in 22-25ft of water. I was looking for walleye so I wasn't really looking for suspenders. I dropped a spoon and nothing. Wondering if they were crappie and maybe I should see if I can catch them. Care to share some screenshots of what you see on the graph if you don't mind and have some?

I don't think its baiting if you don't hunt or its so close to a dwelling. At least that is the way I took it in the CWD containment zone.

Are you actively searching for these fish with your graph? Are you seeing them on the graph?

Its a shame......for the regular 110s I substitute the mcstick but I have yet to find a good 110+2 substitute.....In my mind that extra depth really helps....who knows. I just know it hurts when you lose one. BTW that metered braid you recommended seemed to work well. I wish it had the intermediate markings like the Powerpro but other than that it seems it will do the trick.

Put in about 8:30 with 3 dozen minnows headed to try and catch a limit of crappie. The ramp at Kings River public access isn't bad.....its god awful. I'm to the point I would pitch in for someone to just put down concrete to get things reasonable. I've attached pictures for your viewing pleasure....the ramp is even buckling in places under the water. Solid 4-6" drop off the asphalt. As soon as I got to the lake and realized how overcast a dreary it was, my mind was changed so I took off walleye hunting. I was armed with a jerkbait and trolling rod and a box of cranks. Ran as far as hickory hollow without much more than a couple spotted bass trolling. Then bam....I had a topwater bite as soon as my clown mcstik hit the water and I'm on the board with a dandy 14" crappie. I did manage to loose a megabass on a cast. I cruised over to where I saw it hit and I suppose it was suspended down about 5 or so feet because I never could find it. Those snafu's really hurt. Hopefully someone that needs it, finds it, and puts it to good use. By this point, I was done walleye hunting and wanted a few more crappie so headed off and found another 4 crappies to take home. Saw several boats out and about, water temps were in the 45-47 range. Trolled and jerked roll offs into the channel and rocky points. Crappie were on pole timber.

The media plays up the "team" narrative. In reality those hardcore party elitist groups are a relatively small portion of the votes. Most people fall somewhere in the middle and even bend which side they vote for fairly often. That's why we historically vote in the other party for president fairly often, and always hear about "flipping" states and districts. You might get 60+% voter turn out for president and 40+% for mid-terms which means that a large percentage of voters literally don't give a flying flip at all. Since they don't care, then they likely aren't tied to the extreme left or right they are somewhere in the middle otherwise they would be voting and beating that drum. Unfortunately the people that don't show up to vote are often the ones that could and would make the most difference in who is elected. Presidential elections usually get the highest voter turnout but one could argue that that they ultimately mean the least compared to voting for congress and senate. Unless there is a SCOTUS seat up for grab. At this point in our democracy, any SCOTUS ruling will be premised on ideology because the constitutions isn't clear as drinking water on a lot of what brought forth today. It's exactly why there is even a debate about the 2nd amendment because someone can use the "Yes, but" psychology to twist the constitution to fit their ideology. Alternatively you can think its really all a charade. Candidates are chosen before the votes are ever cast by the elite, corporate money, and media that determine how the game is played and who gets to play(regardless of what Trump really thinks). The actual vote is just lip service democracy to pick between the 2 chosen options.

You ever want to come back a hunt the eyes on the upper end I've got a seat for you.

There is a website out there that ranks non-profits on how much of a dollar actually goes to something besides overhead and marketing. As I recall some of the really popular ones only gave something like 15-20% to their actual cause.

Most farmers wont/arent going to donate. Cows don't get people to open their pocket book. They don't live in the house, most kids don't play with them, and dogs certainly hardly ever show up on the dinner plate in the USA. It's all about their target audience and who is going to give $$$.

Yeah were closing in on river walleye on table rock so it may be awhile before I head back to Beaver.....really want to catch a striper so will probably pick it back up after March.

I've tried 3 arms and 5 arms(3 for TRL). Blades, 2 blades per arm, and no blades. I can't say I've ever gone as small as 2.8" Keitech but have used a lot of 3.3" or the 4.5" I may give the 2.8 a try.

My guess is they will generate more or less how they have been at TRL and will continue to until they hit 917' which seems to be the action point. Then it will probably just be passing it through I suppose.

Didn't see any surface activity but I didn't show up early and it was a fog blanket for the first hour.

Put in about 9 got a late start and figured it would be foggy and it still was when I got there. Pulled out about 3. Was really hoping to stumble into a striper. Had a good fish on a spoon on a hump in the middle of the lake but it pulled off. Was really pulling some drag and head shakes. Assume either catfish or walleye. Threw Arig, spoon, jerkbaits. Explored....found lots of timber in a couple areas....anyone every do any good on crappie near the dam? Finished the day with 2 spots that might have been 12" I want to say I saw WT of 51 but don't hold me to that. FWIW I may be the worst A-rig fishermen ever. I don't know how much time I've spent throwing it but have yet to catch a single fish on it.

Got me beat......I would have bet 100 bucks its was one the ramps in emerald beach. I cant think of any other ramps nearby that look like that.

Is it the back boat ramp from emerald beach?

That right there may be the biggest problem with college tuition/debt and the ideology spread at universities. Sure go spend that money on that degree in Art History.....see how well you can sell yourself to get your first job. Then moan and groan when the system shafts you. Truth be told most of these people doing that are ignorant to the repercussions of their decisions and their parents don't steer them in the right direction to begin with.

Good question @JestersHK my gut feeling is BS will be nearing normal in roughly 10 days. At some point, I would think they would start to lower Beaver by passing through Table Rock.

I'm thinking I want to set the bar high: Take my daughter out on the lake and just introduce her to fishing New PB Walleye 8+ Catch whites on the fly Catch a musky in Missouri; striper in Arkansas(has to be a reasonable size fish, I'm not counting 12" fish) Fish in Colorado with my wife on vacation Possible brown trout in the fall Get back in the routine prior to having my kid of hitting the fish at the right times: Crappie/Walleye in winter/spring, whites, then gills and cats in late spring early summer, floating in summer. Trips currently planned: Ice fishing in MN, Colorado vacation(RMNP)

I find it hard to believe though that you would trust a court preceding/investigation based on facts and data over facts and data presented by someone with a degree just because it doesn't match your experiences. It just in my mind doesn't align. Hasn't your own argument against biologist been that they often have an agenda? That there not truly impartial, that they come pre-loaded with preconceived notions that leads them to the conclusion they want instead of what the data presents? You often directly refute what they say is the facts and supplant it instead with what your experiences are instead. To draw a comparison: Do you truly believe there is such a thing an an impartial jury/judge/police officer/detective/witnesses? Do you not think the those people always go where the facts lead them? Do you not believe there are people punished by the system wrongly, based on facts and data? INCLUDING eye witness accounts which have proven to be unreliable? I just feel like you using the court system to confirm your bias in a positive manner as it relates to religion while using the nearly same argument to confirm your bias in the negative direction towards scientist. FWIW: I did interview a gentlemen one time who told me point blank in the interview he was a convicted felon for molesting a minor. He proceeded to tell me he was extremely messed up and "God told him is touch her inappropriately". I don't know what his official defense was but that is what he told me in the interview.

Correct me if I am wrong but Pascals wager is only a wager of does God exist or not. The outcome of the wager changes significantly if you add in god's besides the Christian God's existence because the opportunity cost of "picking" the wrong god/God has implications beyond "nothing happens" which is the outcome of God doesn't exists in Pascal's Wager. Edit to add: I find it interesting that you say "The reason we have investigations and court trials because we cant just choose what to believe." You know the same could be said for a significant amount of science that you proclaim is malarkey.

I'd be all over this but I head to Minnesota the next weekend. If I am lucky I may pull off a day trip over but don't count me as a yes for any planning purposes.