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Russian presence in the last crash is very interesting to me as well. This day in age I just got to wonder.

Well maybe Wrench they should just put street lights all along the bank. Then again it would be nice if they really patrolled the lake to get at the blind drunks. Of course the powers that be around here would not like that I am sure. Friday before memorial day I noticed there were 3 Water patrol boats blocking the lake at the mouth of Mill creek at 10am. I took my coffee and went down on the dock and watched. They never stopped anything like a A cruiser are anything else that looked like it belonged to anyone who might be somebody. Yet they stopped several fishing boats, wave runners, a few small runabouts. Must have been a safety check huh. About 11;30 when it started to get hot they all left and went up to the Barefoot bar. If they would have done that at 10:00 at night they would have gotten a lot of people for drunk boating. I believe they were ordered up there at that time of day for no other reason than to justify a check and avoid upsetting people that need to be checked

I go along with this I am in my late 70s and do not see all that well at night anymore.. A few years back I had a good start at doing that in spite of having ran this area of the Gravois for over 25 years. I had not been out fishing down the Gravois arm for a couple of years. There is a lot of blackness down there when your headed towards the channel. I used to use the docks back in coves with lights on them to help me navigate down the channel. There were new docks and new light. For some reason it just did not look right to me. The light just did not seem right. I dropped down to a troll speed. Luckely for me there had been a slight wind on my back when I left my dock. I realized that wind was coming at me then from my feet side. I knew then there was a bluff out in front of me. I returned home and have not been out after dark since that time other than staying in my cove. And even then I do not go far our fast. The older we get the easier it is to become disorintated. It would not make any sense to light the bluffs they are to big to be all lite up.

Strange thing about these magnet spots It is usually because some folks seem to want to tip everyone they see. Guess that is good for their ego. patterns change ,weather changes just to many changes really tell someone where a good spot is. Personally I am selfish about my spots I worked to find that spot for today tomorrow more than likely it will be something or somewhere else

I believe people want to be helpful in a situation like that.

i have been out so little this year I have no idea what is going on with the bass but they are sure getting some big crappie. A friend of mine got a 16' crappie. She is a very inexperienced angler and was trolling with her husband at the time. My neighbor got one about 1/4 of a inch short of 16. I go one 15 and 5 more over 13 and kept them in my live box for a dinner we had. Cleaned them two hours before they were deep fried in beer batter. That is the way I like my crappie.

I no longer keep a dog. After many years of not ever being without one. A cat is a simpler animal we figure to take care of itself if your gone inside or out. My cat gets fed at 7am each day. If I dare role over in the bed after 5am she will not let me forget it either. Even if I do notified her to 7. Any visits to many regular wisker visits to my face. Even if I can stay in bed till 7

Well sorry to hear that. But just maybe she is trying to stop you from fishing in a boat. I been married for almost 53 years and the stoping me from fishing in a boat is a real source theme around here.

We'll I sure did not add anything to it. You telling me I did.

My friend and his brothers were fishing in your area Wrench. I seen them on a measure board. It is really going to be a year for a lot of Big crappie. And yes that was about the biggest group of 8 I have ever seen since I been down here. They caught 55 keepers that day. He did not say how but I know he trolls down through that area on north side of the Gravois that you and I both like.

You might be wrong champ If she measured from tip to front to tip of tail over that big belly on that fish she might be right close.

i agree they are 2x6. A 2x6 is 51/2 inches wide. I wii give it 11'for both boards and a liberal 1' for spacing. The tail hangs over about 3" on the final board so So I will say the lady is pretty close to 16". And maybe is with the tail straight like they are often mesured. I caught two one time on two cut on a Rogue that were 17" Put a pic here and everyone said they were 15. So pay no attention to them Cindy Jo Maybe you should be fishing up here in LOZ. !6' is big up here to but they are there. I seen a bunch last weekend of with 8 crappie from between 14" and a few to 15" That a friend and his brothers caught. I have caught a lot of crappie 14 or better in this lake over the years. Right now the crappie here are just Big and Plentiful.

Tell me about it.

I think the local powers that be( resorts and other business) would apply pressure to coverup anything that was found. I know they have a moss problem around the dam area in lower Table Rock that they say it is from lawn fertilizing. Well maybe to a tiny effect. When you understand the lower lake is the closest to the major business center I got my doubts. Realize there are suppose to be stringent rules for subdivision and individual systems. I also know any pollutant can travel tru the ground for miles and enter a body of water. I think the lower Table Rock is just starting to show the effects. onece a pollutant goes into the ground it does not come out it travel with every rain. IF you do nothing t believ chat read it. I am sure the Corp of engin era know that. Here at LOZ some people on here like to shoot there mouth about how dirty it is. Thing is we have a independent lake water motoring ststem that is constant. We also or in the process of establishing sewer districts. I live in one of those districts. We have a central treatment plant that will cover nearly all of the Gravois arm down to the camdenton county line.The plant is located not for from from Gravois Mills in addition to regular treatment the water passes though a long shoot that sterilizes the water to the point where when it reaches the outlet it is totally sterile Its tested hourly. The main problem here is property owners refusing to go on a sewer system for years. Law was passed a few year ago that sewer hook up is not voluntary. If you do not want them they are going to put them in anyway and Bill you for the service. The reason they are not advancing faster is our glorious state legislature. Who will not appropriate any money from the state for further projects. DNR has also told our sewer district that in those cases where people refuse to pay. IF the sewer district shuts off the water and it backs up they mush pay for any damage that occurs they are responsible for all damage. Does that make since to anyone ? These people are just steeling th sewer service with state help. MOst of these type plans are rentals. Table Rock Really Lake is just a whipper snapper as far as lakes af goes. All the same problem older lakes have is coming there also. You drive around the hills down there and all the time and see cuts just full of Quaffers. that can travel miles up and down hills to reach that lake.

If anything bothers fish about the size it would be its vibration in the water. But I doubt it does. Way back in the 50s when Garcia first come out some of the old timers did not like them because they claimed they made to much noise and it went down the line to the lure. I am sure it it went down there just as a string between 2 tin cans will transmit a voice. The lines movement the water itself creates a sound waves they can detect. So I never worry about it. I use blank 10lb Pro braid on my crappie outfits in both black and bright yellow because it lets me straighten out the soft jig hooks in order to retrieve them.

should not be hard since it looks to me like all he did was shooting the the backing and the impact on the backing caused it to lick forward to kick forward and hit the balloon. knocking the dime off.

Sounds to me like they have vacated the bank again. They seem to go back and forth this time of the year with total disregard for water temperature and where condition tell you they should be.

Yesterday was a real good day for small bass I understand from people who came by the dock. Cold front came in last night and it looks like it is not going to be much fun out there this weekend.

Yes your lying when you use the work constantly. The is just rest your just run off your mouth without the slightest understanding of what your talking about. We put 500 homes on the Gravois on a central sewer plant just a a few years ago. Notice I said central plant not some subdivision collection pool. Anytime waste water goes into the ground it stays here. Cutting out the solids like I have been told they do down there means nothing there is still most of the impurities. Yes I will continue to live my life. I will not be pushing people to buy expensive things. I will continue offer some tips. And they are real tips mostly that have to do with Technique. Something else I do not think you understand.

You can say that again Wrench. The first responders down in our area have been conducting various drills for a few years now. It is more likely to occur in one of those real wet times like we had year before last. As I understand it. Even a small breach would turn into a a real problem in a a matter of minutes depending under those conditions.

Sure you do Remember telling people on here a few years back that LOZ was a cesspool that that there were turds floating around in the water. I cannot expand my knowledge living here on a septic tank. File a complain with Lilly. I got full sewers how are you doing.

Nope it is there contract with the United States agency that oversees there water level control If it goes up to normal they will drop it again. The whole thing is to prevent down stream flooding. And it is not all up to LOZ. Truman and LOZ are a chain of the two largest lakes in the state Anyone on here who lived in the St louis area during the big flood of the 90s should remember how the river crested and all looked well and all of sudden it went back into flood. The second time was a big release from LOZ into the Osage river that caused that. That threat makes the power co and Corp up at Truman very nervous. Another thing is that Truman is basically a earthen dam. It could be breached. There have been several emergency seminars here about what is going to happen if it is ever breached. It is not impossible.

i do not really care what you have to say and never have. But a lot of these guys on here are spending way more than they should be . So I do not promote things that cost a lot of money. I realize you got a lots of money you wear it on your sleeve well. I have seen more than my share of ruined marriages over fishing and tackle buying. Sure you might pay $ 500 to $600 for a rod. Wears nice on your sleeve huh.? Never said Have not used high price tackle. You never know what i might know not what I might be exposed to in order to make comparisons.

Well back in the day I could tell you the size of the pea gravel I was moving my jig over and that was with Heavy ugly sticks. So I got to think a lot of feeling has to do with setup of line and lure and weight. Lot of people tell me you need it to yank those big ones out of brush piles. That is true if that works for you. I try to weight my lure for those conditions. If I am fishing brush piles with a jig or worm I try tp match the bait to the condition so that I do not get INTO the brush pile. I like to touch the brush lightly. I feel if I have to go down into a big pile of brush I already have cut my chances a bunch with a big one. Besides it does not feel like a very natural approach to me. If I think one is there I will be back sometime when he feels like coming up to grab a bite. I invite any of you the next tmie you go into a Walmart pick up a Cherrywood and feel how light it is bend it on the floor and drag it over cracks or something and feel how sensitive it is. Matter of fact take one of the expensive ones off the rack and try it in the other hand. I do like a faster tip in some cases that I do not find in cherrywood rods.

i have a few back squirrels and albino deer here on LOZ. The Black squirrels will be gone before summers end. Bella the coon cat that lives next door seems to prefer them. As far as the hybrid, thing goes I am down on one of the best point in my area a lot of summer and fall evenings. I can say we go weeks at time not catching whites in this place and it used to best spots. It was so good when I came in from a evening from down here my wife made me take off my clothes on the porch. For those of you who do not understand that. Big white bass with a bunch of shad already in there belly will shower you and your oat with sh__ when you are landing them. Hybrids do not seem to do that much. Thankfully! They average a lot bigger than whites and could really make a awful mess.