Old plug

I wish they did.

Well then there is older soft marabou feathers there not much use in attaching to wiggly plugs.

Perch bullgill and sunfish are not game fish to begin with.

that could be true Jason but i bet it goes both ways. Bedding bass I refuse to touch.

They might be alright on a small jig. I have a few of them in my closet. Buried in all the other plastics. I might try it later. But i imagine would draw a lot if smaller fish.

I think the bautfish are small species of other things like blue gill.

Im sorry but I do not care for that brand of plastic baits. I do not like the extreme elasticity. The bass ball them up and it can be hard to set the hook though that stuff. You leave them in the package to long and your have to peel them apart. Be careful where you lay them down as well they will melt into a awful lot if things including tackle boxes. I will agree the sinker type does last longer but it will often change how it sink. I have had them float after being used awhile. I use mostly pro bass. 5 inch ones and and a lot of those cheap trick worms you see at Wall Mart.

With stuff on the tail hook of a wart it turns it into a jointed lure.

I have tried preparation H. It has fish oil in it. Did not think that much of it.

Sometimes if i miss a bite i just let it drop where it is for a moment then move it a couple hopes often times they came right back and hit it again.

Hes not a old coot Champ your both still wet behind the ears.

I will do that. I only have one fearand that is that. Some dam long nose gar is going to take a fancy to it. I had one try to take a 16 or 17 inch bass away from me that I hooked a year or so ago.

Treble hooks are one of the major points that makes it attractive to me as well as its 6 inch size and the slow sinking. It seems like a good alternate to my giant unweighted plastic worm fishing. If they are really into feeding on shad then they might be more apt to hit this than my big worms . I want to play with it a bit close to my dock and see how it sinks and all the reactions I can make it impart. I know it has to be better than the soft swim baits. They mostly sink like a rock ( I was not aware that the spros didn't do the same) get tore in half and have a single hook that will miss a lot.

I think LOZ will be mostly frozen by day after tomorrow if we don't have a high wind.

I understand that Wrench mine was $266 and I ran my ben franklin stove during those low temperature periods. we had a rate increase as well you know. Were paying for the new cable system they are installing for the power company to carry TV and internet. Yeah I am super ready to get out there. I was forced to stop in early October. I would be out there now but this lake is not warming up a bit. Last I checked it was close to 33 degrees. We got another another nasty period suppose to blow in next week suppose to come early next week. Suppose to have a lot of freezing rain with it. In my case we will not even be able to get out of here if there is a lot of ice.

If i buy one I will be using it on my old 71/2 ft flipping rod.. And yes i can see potential for its use but like he said do not expect a fish every few minutes using it my only problem was if it had a high resistance. Then it would stop me pronto. What really encourage me is the treble hooks. And the slow sink. i have trouble hooking up with big plastic lures.

I think if your boat is what you like its the best boat. We allhave our preferences. I f on the other hand you want to impress your friends and spend 35-40 K thats OK to. Trouble is someone else is going to get one nicer and then you will not be happy with yours. 96 CHAMP I think what happened is one of the major designers or something for Champion split off and established Phoenix. the first models looked just like Champions.

QUILLBACK. I might just buy one. I have a problems with the plastic ones you put on a jig hooking well enough. But if it presents much resistance when retrieving. Its out if my ball park. The resistence of a medium large crankbait will make my arm tingle and start to go to sleep in about 1/2 hour casting and retrieving because of the arthritis in my shoulders. If i do it would be the most I ever paid for a plug.

As temperature you can find it on the internet. I am betting in the mid to low 30s. I know they were saying here on LOZ the temperature was hovering around 33 degrees.

Only thing I will say is it is useless to worry about all that crap when your out fishing because it is going to interfere with your concentration on what is happening at the end of your line and the condition around you.

I have been watching this and would love to have a greenhouse but it would have to be a of maybe 6 x 10. And I have my doubts about that. You allgrow veggies and a greenhouse is certainly cost effective since your growing food. In my case i only grow orinmental plants snd flowers.we use about 10 flats a year for impatients alone. Plus we have around a 100. Plant hosta collections plus a couple if other colletions as well spread out over a 1/2 lot. But i still enjoy reading and seeing the pictures of your gardens in that forum. They alllook extremely well kept.

Jerry. Yeah John was a heck of fisherman and a hinter as well. Another guy you might know or heard of down there was Frankie Mc Allister. He was the guy responsible for that giant stringer of bass they use to display on the dock at Piedmont Park. They also carried it to the boat shows in st. Louis and Kansas city. I and another guy I know brought those fish to St louis to the taxidermist for them down there. Frankie was unbelievable. I have never ever seen anyone like him. He had some kind of 3 sense. I can remember talking to him one day on the end of the dock the condition were cloudy. With a light warm rain. I said to him " looks like a good day to get them". He looked out on the lake and around for a minute or so and said " they don''t like that. I said what is wrong with it. he said its " not right they don't like it. Hr was right. The thing about both Frankie and John was they were simple fisherman. Never owned a depth finder never had a expensive rod and reel. To the best of my knowledge nether of them had more than 2 except John owned a 9 ft crappie rod many years before such a thing was ever heard of. There're was only three of those in the world , Johns, my friends and mine. I made all three from a one piece saltwater fly rod blanks. Since those days I have only met one other person that is even close to being attuned to the fish that well. Thats wrench. Have not been to clearwater in at least 25 years.

Jerry Jerry. Shhhhhhhh.Have known this for many years. Way back when I used to brush down a clearwater with a friend and John Earnie up at Webb Creek we had some stacked for crappie and would put the boat upon the bank about 100 ft from the bed and walk up and fish off the bank. If you tried that around here either the lot owner are some neighbor would call the sheriff on you. And maybe pointing a gun at you in the meantime before the sheriff got there.

I have a question about these swimming hard baits like the spro are any other that type. My question is how strong is the resistance you have on lets say a average speed retrieve. If it is about what you would get with a large bill deep running crank bait i could not use it. My shoulder and arms would go numb pretty fast from arthritis in my shoulders.

The way i feel is part of the problem is with the air cantrollers iwill amost bet on it