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Well back to being a bachelor. Last week I had to decide what to do with a chicken breast and some vegetables cut and stored from my last trip out to Maryland. Stir fry sounded good. Don't have a full arsenal of spices or sauces at the house yet. So had to run out for soy sauce. I found a market that not only sells fishing gear, but sushi grade salmon, tuna and octopus. That's my kind of store. Also a modest selection of scotch and whiskeys. Kept it simple, thinly sliced chicken, peppers, onions, some garlic powder, S&P and soy sauce. Served with some red beans and rice made by a distant Uncle of mine. Ben is his name. You might know him. Had a But Oak special County Line brew. This is there standard County Line Brown ale aged in bourbon barrels. The Bourbon flavor really comes out.
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I'll just ignore the perch comment . I will have to try them some time. I typically catch quite a few.
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Did it look like either of these fish? This top one is a goldeye. Should have had a lot of teeth. The mooneye I don't believe has the same arsenal of teeth.
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I have never tried one, but green sunfish must taste terrible. Or else you wouldn't see ones this big.
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Maryland Micros and a Surprise!
Johnsfolly replied to Johnsfolly's topic in U.S.A. - North & East Regions
Good Luck! You know how demanding those German Micro Managers can be ! -
Maryland Micros and a Surprise!
Johnsfolly replied to Johnsfolly's topic in U.S.A. - North & East Regions
It takes about 15 to 16 hours from you. Sue has done it a couple of times already. I haven't caught a rainbow trout in MD, YET!!! But know that I can put you on browns and Native brook trout. Also looked at Delaware, they have four trout streams that are about 2 to 3 hours from my place in Maryland. Also the weakfish (or sea trout) is the state fish of Delaware. In case you need to go to the brine for a Delaware trout. -
WOW. Don't think that I would buy any of those.
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I have been meaning to get into north Maryland to hit a high gradient stream or two for some new species. Hoping to catch some different sculpin, darters, or madtoms. I had a bunch of things to get done around the house (yes I am domesticated and house-broken ) in the morning and didn't get on the road until after 2:30 pm. I got to the stream access around 4:15. I had fished this stream back in March and only saw three or four fish and could not get any bites. I was hoping for a different turn out this time. I looked into the water around the bridge by the access and did not see anything ,but two juvenile fish that were even a bit small by my standards (or hook sizes). Wasn't looking real good, but I headed upstream anyway. There is a walking park converted from an old railroad system that runs along the creek a lot like the Katy trail in Missouri. I looked at the creek from the next bridge and saw what looked like some fish activity. I had on a 1/32 oz tube jig head with a green pumpkin body and chartreuse paddle tail slider. I made a cast to the far bank near the bridge wall and got a couple of taps. Nothing solid. I cast along the wall on my side of the bank and got more of the same, just nips most likely at the tail of the bait. I switched to a John Deere microjig and got a nice bite from a redbreast sunfish. I couldn't get a photo, so maybe I didn't catch that one . I ahd seen another sunfish chase the one that I caught and made a couple more casts but no takers. I could see fish on the other bank and went over there. I put on a #16 hook, a couple of split shot and a small bit of nightcrawler. I ended up catching a rather familiar minnow, a common shiner.I catch these guys a lot in MO, but had not caught on yet in Maryland so it was a new one on that List! I caught quite a few and some looked more like striped shiners, but there have not been any striped shiners reported in Maryland. I caught a couple of small bluegill and decided to head upstream where I had a chance at a sculpin back in March. What a difference a couple of months can make, I was seeing a number of fish. My next catch was from a slower water/sandy bottom section of creek and was another Missouri favorite, a creek chub. Again knocks that species off of the "to catch in Maryland" list. I caught another small bluegill and creek chub then moved down to the faster water/riffles and rocky pools downstream. I could see fish in the gravel, but did not see any darters. I cast my worm into a deeper hole undercutting a sycamore tree and got a decent bite (for a minnow). I knew that this was not a species that I had caught previously, but was not sure what it was. Fortunately I was able to catch a couple more further downstream including this large one and was able to id these fish as river chubs. A new species for my life list as well as my Maryland list ! As I had mentioned I was catching a few of the common shiners in most spots that I fished. I also caught a few bluntnose minnows as well in the faster water near the tail end of the pools. I have caught these guys in Missouri as well, but not in MD. So what about the surprise. Was it this Louisiana water thrush? Nope I have seen them throughout Pennsylvania. What about the fresh and ripe blackberries? Nah they are pretty common and the number thorn bushes that I remember walking through back in March would have alerted me that these guys would be streamside as well. How about this ebony jewlwing damselfly? Not expected but again fairly common around streams like this one. Not even this doe standing broadside at 15 yards from me was a surprise. As I was leaving, they showed me how much they own the roadways as they walked slowly across the road on several occasions. The surprise came when drifting a bait along this large boulder. I made a couple of cast and drifts with my worm along that flow. I caught two common shiners and that large river chub in that stretch. I hooked a fish that fought a bit differently than the minnows. I knew that the state of Maryland will release dreaded nonnatives to this stream as a put and take fishery. But that fish felt like a trout, but it came undone. I made another cast and drifted the same flow and got bit again, this time it did not come unbuttoned and I landed this 5 inch naturalized nonnative. That was a surprise to me. I did not know that there would be any browns in this creek.
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Gavin did you get a photo of that fish?
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Giving proper names to fish and animals is referenced in the bible. "The man gave names to all the livestock, to the birds in the sky, and to all of the wild animals." I just doing my part to make OAF guys use the right names😁.
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Very likely a northern rock bass. I'm ok with most vernacular. So not bothered by goggle eye. Do have a tough time when all sunfish are called perch😌.
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No they chase minnows downstream instead of slurping up the midges from the treatment plant.
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DJ did you at least catch a brown trout?
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DJ did you catch those trout below the water treatment discharge? Thats the best spot to catch those carp I mean trout on that whole creek😛!
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You didn't just say that!?!? I got a buzz in my ear (or maybe my phone) that you were dissing the micros. That striped shiner looks a bit bigger than those transplant trout buddy!
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I have always fished the upper access. I found the pickerel in the deeper and longer pools. I caught a couple in the long pool below where one of the trails (horse trail?) crosses the creek. Don't know if that helps.
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Great job to you guys! Some very nice looking bass! Glad that you got them figured out.
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Looks like an awesome time. Those are great fish especially those absolute toad white bass! Congrats! Love to fish stickbaits for big browns. In thin water less than 3 to4 ft deep I'll just use the original F9 or F11 Rapala. Did have success night fishing X-raps with @JestersHK. No browns but caught smallmouth, fat rainbows, and a white bass. I hope to be able and arrange another Taney trip ot two in the near future.
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I coild see me trying to set up a native tank with those banded killifish. I have to check on the population status before getting into collection od darters or those bluespotted sunfish. Maybe more likely to have a brackish system with sheepshead minnows, mummichogs, etc.
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Those are great fish! Too bad that Hog Wally lost the trifecta fish. Still sounds like a great day. Congrats and happy father's day!
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They are less cautious than stonerollers. Those are tight lipped fish!
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When we were at the Johnson Shut-ins last week, I saw several different species of fish that I would love to catch including several greenside darters and a couple of logperch. The logperch is one of Missouri's largest darter species and one species that I had not yet seen let alone had the opportunity to catch. Also this area also has the brook darter. I didn't get to fish the last time down, so I packed up my daughter and we went yesterday as sort of a pre-Father's day event. BilletHead has started discussions on several occasions about what would you do for a single fish, drive 40 minutes, 2 hours, 4 hours, ... I have always felt that it could be worth it for the experience. With that in mind we set off at 5:45 am to the Black river to fish below the shut-ins (ended up as a 420 mile round trip) for the hope of catching a brook darter, greenside darter, and/or a logperch. Knowing that you cannot fish in the designated swim areas I had a plan to pack in our fishing gear and hike down river. We ended up on a trail that headed up the hills above the shut-ins. Finally we found a side trail that headed back down towards the river. We did see a couple of lizards along the way including this male fence lizard. You can just make out his blue patch of breeding coloration on his side. Believe it or not, Livie was not able to catch this guy. Don't worry she caught a few other things with her hands (more on them later). After an invigorating hike with a couple of white knuckle slides, we made it to the river. Saw lots of fish including many darters right off the bat. Could be a good day! We got the rods rigged up and baited (using in nightcrawler pieces instead of redworms because that's what we had at home). Of course Livie caught a small green sufish right off - with her HANDS ! Then she caught one with her rod. While she was catching sunfish, I focused on trying after the micros around me. I caught a few bleeding shiners right off the bat before I targeted the darters around us. We each targeted the more colorful darters, which were likely to be the males. Based upon their size, I was fairly certain that we had caught brook darters. It was not until I uploaded the photos that it became apparent that we had in fact caught small rainbow darters. Still nice looking fish, but somewhat disappointed because If I had looked closer at them we could have kept fishing for the brooks. After catching these guys, I focused on trying to find and catch some other darters. Livie was excited catching a bunch of longear sunfish which is always the case when you catch the first few . I was even happy to catch a few as a break from trying not to fall on the slick rocks (Note use felts soled boots if you have them!) and hunting for some new species. I found a spot that had a few greenside darters. Livie was first up to try for these guys. This is a species that can be difficult to get on a bait or to catch once they do go after your bait. Livie suffered through both scenarios with one of two fish just being spooked by the bait or not being able to get a hook set on the fish if it did bite. She got very frustrated and gave me the rod. I had a bit better success in terms of getting fish interested in the baits, but never got one hooked. I lifted a few out of the water and one actually flew out of the water and almost landed in the catch bag Livie was holding. Both of us were frustrated and moved on. Didn't get another chance at any greenside darters. Another frustration was trying to hook the nightcrawler pieces onto the small hooks, The worm pieces were a bit large and did not stay on the hooks very well. Livie did get a nice hand caught bullfrog tadpole as a consolation prize. I chased studfish and blackstripe topminnows as I continued downstream, but either spooked them or could not get them hooked. I came up to a large deeper pool. I caught sight of a large striped darter, the first logperch sighting!! I just had a topminnow strip my bait and had to call Livie to head back down to me with the bait and the rest of our gear. I spooked the first one that I tried to get on my bait. I didn't see another one for 5 or 10 mins. Then there were two in a spot about 20 feet from me. I snuck up to them and spooked them again. This time they came back quickly to the same spot. I dropped my bait and got bit as soon as it hit the water, it was a longear sunfish, then another, and another. I started seeing more logperch, but every one of them seemed to be surrounded by two or more sunfish. I ended up putting on another sinker to get the bait quickly through the gauntlet of sunfish down to the logperch. Once the bait got down to the darters, they would go after it or the sinkers or the bait or sinkers.... Or another sunfish! Finally the cry of "Get the bag.. Get the bag!" rang out and the first logperch of the day was in the bag. Livie was up next and she had much the same experience with about 15 to 20 sunfish caught before she caught her logperch near this brush. Unfortunately it did not get into the bag for a photo. She was heartbroken and spent another 20 plus minutes trying for another one only to catch at least another 7 or 8 sunfish. Severely dehydrated we left and hiked back to the car. We got dinner at Kettlehut smokehouse in Festus MO and split a piece of their lemon cheesecake pie!
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Dan Hufferd caught one in Stockton a couple of years ago. I believe that he was using a jigging spoon. If we were not surrounded by sunfish, we could have caught a few. They were not shy but just a little slower than the sunfish in taking the bait!
