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Thanks Al I'll look into those options. Thanks everybody.

I don't know what price range are looking at but Dockers Inn up the road is clean and reasonable. We stay there in the winter for $27 per night per guy. Obviuosly in the summer it's probably around $60 per night, http://www.dockersinn.com/ If you want cheaper that place across from the State Park is okay at $40 a night I think. http://parkviewlodging.com/ Above $60 a night you can stay just about anywhere you want. Point Royal right there at probably $75 a night. Hope this helps. I hate seeing a St. Charles County brother left out. SIO3

That is very cool! I've been telling friends about seeing them at Rim Shoals on The White for years. They were always running around not in a tree. Sounds like decent fishing though. SIO3

I was trying to get across that the process, even when done to standard operating procedures, is a disaster to the environment. Only half of the "produced" water comes back up. The other half, with the 596 chemicals stays in the ground. This shouldn't be happening until they comply with the clean water act. SIO3

Thanks everybody. I'll look into the Huzzah and Courtois trip Pat. That sounds like what we are looking for. Thanks. I know what you mean Al. I'm thinking Tuesday or Wednesday after the fourth. My wife and I used to float 4 or 5 times a year but we quit after a bunch of incidents you described. Our last trip was horible. We were getting bullied by some drunk kids and I couldn't take it anymore. I had a few M-80's with me and started throwing them in the river. The kids backed off and went and told the authorities. Luckily we just blended in with a big crowd at the ramp and walked right past the drunken idiots to our car and drove away. My wife's still mad about it and it was 7 or 8 years ago. I'll let you guys know how it goes. SIO3

I tried last year and never got to it. Either the water was high or we couldn't go. I'm determined to take my 11 year old daughter floating and fishing. We'll go during the week and we want a short float with decent fishing. We spinfish with soft plastics and C n R. We live in St. charles and want something relatively close. Fire away! Thanks, SIO3

"And as Al said, if the state has only a handful of inspectors for potentially thousands of wells, you can see how we'd loose." What would an inspector do anyway? Once that stuff is injected down the hole it's basically a mute point to make sure they doing it right. They don't have to answer to anyone anyway thanks to Busch and Cheney. SIO3

I saw that show Al. I posted a link to it over on John Wilson's website and it hasn't gotten even one response. They were trying to put one of these at Cowshoals on the Little Red but the community came together to fight it. http://flyfishingarkansasandmissouri.yuku.com/topic/6159 The corporate greed in this country is going to ruin our environment. Snagged

44 to 63 south to 160 west out of West Plains.

I'm guessing FC=Feather Craft SIO3

I actually opened the thread thinking it was something different. Tonight we have an event called "Savor, taste of St Peters". Pay your $20 and taste the offerings of more than 35 local resturants. Plus the local brew houses and wineries provide all you can drink. Live music tops it all off. Well, that and a good cigar while girl-watching. It's the best deal in town for a 20 spot. We don't have waves nearly that big though. SIO3

I thought nobody went there after they found high concentrations of do-do in the water? I heard the browns were biting. SIO3

That is an awesome display of power and technology! If you live anywhere near there do not miss the chance to see them. They have been in St Louis every other year forever. Last year they enlarged the St Louis County airport and the show won't happen anymore. If I wasn't busy I would take the family there for sure. SIO3

Bummer about the ticket. How was the fishing? Snagged

I know Gary and have used the taxi for years. Not only put you in an area that has fish but recommend flies to use. He'll also tell you what to expect as far as generation. Call before you drive over to make sure someone is around to take you. The Spring is canoe friendly but I believe during the summer it's a party mecca. Not a good place for families. At least that's what I heard and maybe someone else can confirm or deny that. It takes about an hour to drive there from Quarry Park. Don't speed, they patrol the road over there pretty heavily. Snagged

Nice!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.stillwatersresort.com/ With the new road around Silver Dollar City this place is great! Snagged

I believe the rubber legs are illegal in Zone 2 SIO3

This is just my opinion. I've given this advice on here before. Learn to manage your trading money so you can stay in the game long enough to learn something about trading. Go buy William O'Neil's "How to Make Money in Stocks" It will teach how to hang onto to your cash. When to buy when the odds are in your favor (somewhat), and more importantly when to sell. Especially when to sell when you are wrong. It answers the most important question in trading. You've bought a stock, now what is your exit plan? When will you take profits? How big of a loss are you willing to take? Are you aware of the tax consequences of taking a loss on a stock and then trading it again withiun 30 days? If you do, you can't take the loss on the first trade. It's called the wash sale rule. Also consider a trading platform that does year end tax accounting for free. At Ameritrade you get access to Gainskeeper for free. I can't tell you how much that is worth to an active trader. I could go on, but the bottom line is, conserve your money long enough to learn something. Because you will be wrong eventually. SIO3

Hey Flyfishinfool Greg thinks your Terry Beason because you have the same avatar. SIO3

I've posted this before. Creve Coeur Lake. Not the main lake but the canal under the Page Ext. There is road to the Lakeside Bar I think you can park along to get there. It is absolutely loaded with carp. I've seen it covered in carp sipping cottonwood fluffs. Report your success. SIO3

Ted, a great place to carp fish is Creve Couer lake. Not the main lake but the canal that runs under the Page extension. I've been bike riding there and have seen literally hundreds of them eating cottonwood fluffs. I haven't been by car, but I think you drive down the road that goes to that Lakeside bar and walk in from there. I've tried hundreds of presentations to carp with a fly and haven't ever gotten anything close to a pattern. Chum with corn, use a spinning rod, split shot and a scud hook. Deadly!!! Drive up to the Golden Eagle Ferry and fish that slough along side the road. Hundreds of them. Snagged

I have hired many guides over the years. Mostly in places when I'm on vacation and don't have a boat or the knowledge to fish safely. For instance, red-fishing in New Oeleans. I don't have a boat and even if I did, I don't the tides or areas to fish. So I hire a guide. The only times a guide has fished during the trip were the bass fishing guides. Specifically one at Lake of the Ozarks who repeatedly threw into the cover before me until I told him I wanted to cancel the trip. He said all the guides fish on the trips and it is normal. After watching him catch 4 or 5 fish I told him to pack it in and take us back. I also refused to pay. I had a similar confrontation at Table Rock with a guide while on a business outing. So what's your take on this? Let er rip. Snagged

Nice!!!! Wish I was there!

Like June used to say to Ward, "Don't be too hard on the Beaver, dear" Sounds like you have it made. Turkey hunting, camping and fishing! Keep up the reports for all us working stiffs. Snagged