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Jordan Isaacs?? https://www.news-leader.com/story/news/local/ozarks/2018/09/06/monster-bass-fish-caught-bull-shoals-lake/1195311002/ http://www.kayakfishing.com/58-striped-bass/

On good days I can play with trout in the hot mid and tease the bass after dark. I try to be an equal opportunity fisherman,

Not for several years. I used to wade it down to the county road five or six times each summer. Been maybe 7-8 years since I did that. I was asking about that the other day and the Parks cop told me they aren't stocking it much and that the private land owners are calling law if you get on them. I haven't looked at a map to see if the private land is a problem or if the guy was just being a cop and exaggerating it. I didn't talk to the MDC about the stocking either, so.. I fish the park because it's easier walking and closer to the car. It gets too cold to fish small mouth? Wrench, I'm going to Fayetteville this after noon and that will take care of my quota of traffic and stop lights for a few weeks. They need to build more rest areas along these highways. Hour at a time is all I can sit.

I'd like that. I might like it better in warmer weather, like Oct. It's outside my 5-6 county area though. I don't think of the Niangua as a big river, but I've only seen it near BSSP and that only a couple times and long enough ago that memories are vague. At least ten years since I got that far from Pineville, and I don't travel as well as I once did. A trip to wrench's waters would be a three day deal for me. I have found/picked up about a dozen of those lost little bobbers around the RR and have messed with using them some over the last couple months, ineffectively I might add. Still seem like a hindrance to me, takes the feel away and drags the fly. Trout and sunfish both wanted to eat the bobber. Watched a gal last time at RR that had the bobber way up the leader, it didn't touch the water as she fished except as the cast landed, then she held it out of the water as her rig went by and swung. She handled the rod well enough that I don't think it was her first time, but the bobber looked even more useless hanging three feet from the rod and three feet from the water. Didn't watch long enough to see a fish caught, so don't know if that worked or not.

now every one will want a kayak. https://www.news-leader.com/story/news/local/ozarks/2018/09/06/monster-bass-fish-caught-bull-shoals-lake/1195311002/

Al, I don't get to fish big rivers like that and am curios, when you fish that indicator way out there, is the purpose to focus your eye on or to control the fly depth? or to keep the rig moving down current?

is that the one with three droppers or five?

Well now that's something else you could teach me, I don't even know what it is. Sounds drug related, but I'm sure it isn't.

nah, It just told me he had no idea why, someone had told him "do this" and he was a good sheep. Lots of folks have no idea why or what they are doing in many things.

Video link to someone casting 10' tippet & indicator? I was serious when I said I'd like to see that. It is not some thing that I can imagine and as far as I am aware of have never seen. Is there also several feet of leader above the indicator? I have seen people at RRSP using bobbers on fly rods but the bobber was only a couple feet from the fly, with several feet of leader between it and the line. I wondered "why have leader above the bobber?" I still don't know. When I asked one guy, his answer was "well, because you really have to have it this way".

I looked at Big Nickel & C-list and found nothing, never would have thought of FB. I wondered if that was the place.

I wasn't talking about the multi-fly cast, I have some experience with that, three is about my limmit but I know the old guys hung five on a regular basis when salmon fishing. I had to search a bit to find what Wotten is about, but an hour later and I still find no reference to 10' of tippet under a bobber. I have never figured out bobbers on fly lines, there's a reason why the casting and spinning rigs are popular. I also wouldn't know how to handle 10' of tippet without a bobber, so I could learn two things with one demonstration.

I'd like to watch that done, it would be a learning opportunity for me.

I have read that Rule 2 of Inland Navigation is used by the Courts, thing is you have to take the offender to court for damages and you will need documentation. I think wrench is on the right track, that's the way I would do it. Boats are mostly designed to ride water at the bow. 45 lessens the chance of stuffing. (at least that is what I was told as a swab)

Where did you see that?

Sure it's personal preference, but imo, it also varies with conditions and type of water, similar to what Doug said about sight fishing. Every thing we do in fly fishing is either personal preference or BS that we have taken as dogma. I've come to believe none of is dogma, every thing can be varied. I'm not very good at passive fishing, three to five seconds of drift and I either want to give the fly some life or move the cast back upstream of the fish. A dropper rigged set of wets or streamers can work on a the down and across swing or as I used them more, working two or three bucktails along the edge of the weed line in a pond/lake. In either case I am working with a tight line and my fingers are the indicator. Droppers get in my way or break my focus when casting up into pockets or when attempting to hit the window of a fish I see in a run. There is also a prohibition on some waters and after a while the habit of not using them takes over. The advice of looking at what works on Taney, if you intend to fish Taney is good for any water, the reason the locals fish a particular fly or use a particular presentation is simply because that works best there. I don't think the dropper tied in at the bend would especially bother a fish, but my mind runs to "what ifs" and I imagine being into a nice fish on the hopper only to have a small fish hit the dropper and pull the hook away from the fish already hooked; crazy idea i guess, but it always made me tie separate leaders, the method of tying off the top fly's eye would almost always foul for me. Go out in your local water and try all the methods you see or read of and learn what your preferences are. Brim aren't a lot different from trout, both are panfish and eat insects.

Not this year, too dry to make a berry crop, but I like jam more than jelly for the raspberries, black berries and straw berries. My late sister-in-law was a jelly maker, if it had juice she made jelly, she made a lot of jelly out of Kool Aid and some of that Kool Aid jelly tasted just as real as can be.

I was wondering if it was the lines in the polarization, I wear the progressive lens and recently bought some polarized clip ons that mess with my walking on banks and rocks, but in the past had scripts made polarized & progressive that worked fine at the time. The Strike Kings with the bifocal magnifier doesn't mess me up too bad, if I remember to move my head and not my eyes.

Those Prescription Shades made by the same optician as your regular glasses?

I haven't used a dropper in a long time, (20+Years?) when I did, I tied a short stiff dropper at a (or as part of) leader knot, say where the tippet ties to the leader leave the heavy tag long enough to tie the fly onto, or tie a separate (third) piece of leader in at a blood knot join. I think those jewelry jump tippet rings people use now would make a good tie in place. I bought some to try and have forgotten where I put them. Fishing two wets/streamers I had better results if the dropper was at right angles to the leader. I've only seen the tie to bend method in magazines and on the net, never tried it. ime, two or three flies worked best for LMB or chain pickerel, ymmv.

I thought you had to use live bluegill or worms? Long time ago some one told me to use strawberry Nehi and Wheaties and it worked in that river. I also used whole shrimp a couple times. And soft shell crawdads. I'm not sure but I think Sonny's dip bait has a new name, I saw that some where. sss, maybe?

I always take things apart inside a clear plastic bag, just in case there is tiny but powerful spring that wants to be free, it's easier than spending hours combing through the floor and furniture.

A piece of land that big needs a lot of fence, you might want to look at what condition that is in, and cost to repair if needed.

All it takes to make them good again is dry them. We used aboard ship around electronics and reused many times, oven dried. I have a jar full of the blue ones now to dry my hearing aids and when they lose color a minute or two in the microwave restores them. Not a rust inhibitor at all though.

There was a thread not too long ago about catching clipped river bass and wondering if it was done by whom and why, Meramec forum possibly. Culling buoys should be banned, keep them or release them immediately.