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cheaper to rent a boat?

I can see that Ok. has a problem with that, but the drainages in Ar & Mo aren't supposed to contain any other similar species (yet!) so could easily be managed as a separate species, if they wanted to.

That is much better than Mo. is doing with the Neosho bass, i was told MDC will continue to treat it as a smallmouth.

I wouldn't know, just wondered that @Gavin had them all on his "no book" list. I think that I've actually only seen three guides in my life and they were all hanging around in or working at fly shops. From conversing with them, the boat might be the best reason for hiring one. I take that back I did meet Davy at the 'Sowbug' when he was giving a lecture there that my son wanted to hear. Too bad the microphone didn't work. So that makes four guides that I've seen in my life. I did see and talk to a few exceptional tiers at that Roundup.

Do they have to take a test now?

Arkansas trout guides are that bad?

I'll tell you my version. Lets say that I drive three hours one way to fish a stream, it would be nice if that stream had fish in it, no? The difference between the blue and the white is how many fish get stocked and how many are there now. At least on the ones that I fish, the white ribbon steams get stocked five times per year and the blue ribbon not at all. So, that sounds like the white would have a lot more fish per mile? Nope. Because the white ribbon streams allow bait and and have a four fish kill limit. Whenever the stocking truck shows up someone always sees it and call all the local trout killers who will be there in minutes using bait and filling buckets, most can't count to four so take six or more and none of them can tell a brown trout from a rainbow, so if any browns under the length limit also get in the bucket. Typically a week or ten days sees 90%-99% of the newly stocked trout killed, leaving not too many in the stream. So these streams fish pretty good five weeks out of the year, IF you get there in the stocking weeks. On the other hand the blue ribbon streams prohibit bait and only allow one fish to be killed and it must be over 18", so given that most of the fish caught are minimally hurt by the flies/lure and immediately released the numbers of fish in the stream stay about the same every day of the year. This means you have a better chance of seeing a fish on any given day than on the white ribbon steams after they have been depleted. The use of bait has some real drawbacks to fish survival, because they often swallow and become gullet hooked or gut hooked and the mortality rate if released is about ten times that of single point lure caught trout, and that is if every fish is released. But because the white ribbon areas have a higher limit the bait caught fish are often killed. I don't think that's true, I'd say that it sets aside the streams that may have self-sustaining populations as places where the harvest is meant to be about equal to natural mortality rates, so that they may remain self-sustaining. And to provide a put and take fishery on streams that are capable of holding trout but do not support natural reproduction. I'm pretty sure that if a white ribbon stream was observed to have repeated natural surviving reproduction that it would be elevated to blue status.

looks like you need rain, or a concrete crew. Or both.

So which rig did you catch the fish on? Like the wrench hinted, ^^^, you have to learn from the fish and details count. It's just like fishing, you might have 100 fish days or ten days in a row skunked. I think it seems a lot slower when using bait, but what does a fly-rodder know? All the waters in the USA are over fished, we just have too many people with too much free time. But the Bennett Spring hatchery is in the middle of a multi year rehab with no production and any stocking is from other sources. https://mdc.mo.gov/discover-nature/places/bennett-spring-fish-hatchery/bennett-spring-construction-updates This is a detail, but if you want help you kinda have to be specific; a "small hook" is relative- a #2 is small compared to #8/0 and pretty big compared to #8. I used to use #10 when fishing trout with worms and I used to use #24 when fishing trout in ponds with flies. If using an egg, I'd want one egg to pretty much cover a hook shank and to float near the bottom, not lie on it. Perhaps a #12 egg hook.

Pretty much. I think that's the reason for the mono rig and "Euro nymphing lines". Ted Fay used heavily weighted flies that kept his leader-line taut and Humphreys used split shot, but both stood a lot closer to the fish than 40'. It works for you. I suppose bend might be more accurate than hinge, unless the nymph is a floater. In my case, I think that trying to "watch the indicator" distracts me from fishing. It has been a most unsuccessful tactic for me, anyhow. So, I know nothing about Pallot, was he a nymph fisherman?

So it is a suspension device rather than a "sighter". You confused me with "sighter for nymphing". My fault, I guess. I'm not a modern nympher, having learned from Sawyer's and Hidy's books, with some influence from articles about Ted Fay and Joe Humphreys' book, in every instance using the line to detect unseen strikes. So may have knowledge gaps, but my online reading indicates that an "indicator" floats and is a suspension device, or bobber while a "sighter" is visible above and below water and used in contact nymphing. Theory being, I think, that any floating device causes a hinge and interrupts the constant contact between fly and hand. I've never really learned the indicator method, tried it many times with never a strike, so far as I know. But then I never caught many fish using a bobber with bait either., I think I'm just not a good spectator and my attention wanders.

SA now sells "Tri-Color" tippet for that purpose, color change every 10", or something like that. Although I suppose that more people use "Amnesia" spliced into the leader. I recall as a boy driving fish for the men to "grab" that they all preferred white as a sighter color.

Try a constant tension oval cast like I used to use with spoons and crappie jigs. I also used to carry a couple yards of line with a heavy lure in a constant tension circle overhead like a bola or a lasso and then taking the cast out of that circle. Neither cast is elegant or pretty but I never had one of those heavy things hit me or the rod.

That's true and if we print/publish it, we can call it science

Your Lake Expo article Like I said, I wonder if anything in that article is true. It reads like it was made up on the back porch. It's obviously intended to make the tourists feel good about playing in the pond and spending their cash there. It is true though that the sinus are closely enough connected to the brain that a sinus infection can pass to brain, so it is possible that the nostrils are the route to infection, it just seems far fetched.

Ahh, no doubt, but the article states you can't get the amoeba orally so drink up. The theory seems that to be exposure happens if the water gets into your nose, which i can see happening if washing your face or taking a shower, also times when one would be exposed to water over 80F. Rolling in those fresh cool rain puddles and ditches might expose kids to other bad stuff but apparently not the Brain Eater. And the idea that it is in all warm puddles world wide would suggest that the seeds/spawn/eggs for these things must be on the ground waiting for the rain to come or in the air? but if in the air they would get into the nose, so they must be on all the dry ground just waiting. Or that Tourist Reassurance Propaganda sheet is full of lies? Journalistic Science: you make up what you want to believe, we make up what we want you to believe. No need for truth or logic and we don't need no stinkin facts.

I think this is the most interesting part of the entire discussion- And I wonder if that's true. For if it is, it's dangerous to take shower.

Or maybe the word will get out that it's meant to be "Operate the Blower" rather than "Blow the Operator" They might even find out who changed out all the signs?

that probably accounts for those 9 explosions on LOZ

Ate a lot of squirrels as I was growing up (nearly all cooked on a "Home Comfort" wood stove) and camped out hundreds of times but I don't think there was ever a time when Mama cooked a squirrel over a campfire, and I don't recall her ever cooking anything on a Coleman. I would want a deep bed of coals and a cast dutch oven. Interesting contest. I might go just to watch. Will you be participating?

I think they did the right thing, there really is no other alternative other than accepting that the invasive ha won. I do wonder if there is an alternative poison that wouldn't have left overs in the river. It's a shame that native species got killed off too, but those species were doomed already if the invasive multiplied.

You must think the fish think like humans?

The only cause of ignition of excess vapor is excess vapor. Fix that and the sparks will be safe, no?

But how would they know that? wouldn't thousands of years of ocean life set their programing to head deep or deeper to find cool water?

It does sound like the newer boats are designed to explode. I would put the blower a duct work away from and outside of the compartment, pushing "fresh" air in ... but then I'd seperate the fuel tank from the engine compartment too, so I'm not smart enough to be a boat designer. So, how often do the fuel docks catch fire or explode? every boat there must have starters and pumps? I had thought that spreading the fumes out over much larger areas served to dilute them to the point of becoming non explosive, thought that concentration was the danger.