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How will they prove the kidnapping charges with no woman and no witnesses? Rainwater is said to Anglicized German from Reinwasser, a guy by that name has a used car lot, that I passed yesterday so I looked it up.

How did she escape?

Old smelly bucks aren't meant to eat, if you hunt big racks eat the antlers, they are the best part of the deer, followed by the hide. Dry/barren does make the best meat but any doe will taste better than any mature buck. If the season is buck only, shoot the spikes and forks, if the season calls for over three points per side or similar stupidity, skip the deer and eat chicken. My youngest has killed three 10-11 point bucks on the farm here and all were dog food. I can smell the nasty when cutting the meat. Also deer (or domestic animals) that are badly frightened or stressed just prior to death will often taste/smell bad . When I spent ~150-200 hours watching deer one year, late summer and fall, they rarely ate grass, only ate acorns for a few fall days and only under select oaks. Altogether not enough to have much effect on taste nor over a long enough time period. That was a banner year for mast too and other trees of the same variety were ignored. They may have come back to the acorns in winter, idk. What I saw them eat most was green twigs and leaves, my deer are not grazers at all they are browsers that snatch a few bites here and there and nibble bushes and forbs more than grass. They love green beans best of anything tho. Of course I'd expect diet to vary with location and availability of native/natural/crop forages.

Properly bled meat will be more brown than red. I reckon the copper taste someone mentioned is blood. And cutting the throat of a dead animal does little or nothing about bleeding out, because the heart is stopped. But you are correct anything white isn't right in venison.

Not really a process, but guide lines. (works for goat too) Because deer don't always bleed out, the taste can often be improved with a soak in salt water prior to cooking to remove that blood, fat or tallow can taste off and a cup of apple or wine vinegar in that salt soak can kill or off set that taste. An hour or two in the "marinade" should get most of the blood out, but over night is fine too. But, back to processing, never let the hair touch the meat, cut out any torn up or dirty meat from wound area and cavity, bone out, remove as much fat as possible, remove all the silverskin, take out as many tendons as you can, avoid using a bone saw as bone dust is not tasty. Because the silverskin is inedible, nasty tasting and it surrounds every muscle, the final cuts will often be rather small, perhaps bite size, I "fry" these but they make great stew also. The back straps and tender lion are most prized simply because they don't require as much care with fat, silverskin or tendons, they'll also make the biggest pieces The actual cooking is best done slowly imo. but a flour/salt/black pepper dredge and a frying pan/skillet is a good start, just don't actually fry it. At the end of cooking, tossing a 1/2 cup of water into the pan and covering on reduced heat for a few minutes can get a good result. Domestic animals are usually bled out in the killing/butchering process, it's why you stick a pig for example. Or decapitating a chicken. Beef have such large muscles that the silverskin is negligible, so a processing plant never takes it into consideration.

That's stuff I won't eat. "I told a couple dozen deer cookers that i thought i was great but i was lying to make them feel good."" I never told them what it was til they had seconds. When I cook you either eat or don't and I don't care. I'm easy.

I have fed a couple dozen deer meat haters venison and they loved it. Processing and prep are as important as the cooking. I won't eat either deer sausage, jerky or especially burger; all three indicate poorly handled meat. I won't eat deer processed by most butcher shops either, they tend to treat game like it was beef. Each game meat is slightly different to dress and none of them as easy to process as an Angus.

July 24 Cassidy "restrained" (caged?) July 25 She "left in the middle of the night" one month later a family member reports her missing- since July 25? Sheriff checked it out or not?? ~7weeks after disappearance FBI gets "caged" report (someone called the FBI because the Sheriff was not investigating?) (still alive?) (how does the caller know? is the caller Norton?) Sept 21 Norton is caged for helping "restrain" her, yet Phelps is still loose? is Phelps related to the Sheriff? Is Moon Valley in a town or why are the police there instead of Sheriff? What is an "overload trucker"? And it gets worse? TV series airing when?

Spread over 29,000 acres that's not as over harvested as I first thought. I reckon they should have waited for these nonresidents to go home and nailed them at the state line with Federal charges under Lacey. Looks to me like what they did will end up just like Wrench said, no one claims the things then the case will be thrown out. Proof is the key, and it sounds like all they have is hearsay.

I think kayakers are right there with otters. Even the ones that don't fish provide exceptional stress on the entire ecosystem.

Not from this forum but pages I have book marked that may help. https://www.swtu.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Fly-Tying-I-Instructional-Booklet.pdf http://www.swtu.org/pdfs/fly_tying/Beginning-Materials-List.pdf http://www.cascadecrest.com/v/vspfiles/fly-tying-manuals/BasicTroutFlys101.pdf

I only know these clubs exist, and there is another, maybe, there was a (I think) Mid Mo Chapter of Trout Unlimited Southwest Missouri Fly Fishers Missouri Trout Fishermen's Association It might be worth a visit to BP, years back, one tying club event I saw had a stack of those cheap vises BP sells and I got the impression they had them as a promotion.

Perhaps more pertinent to this thread- some Greek ~500BC said- "in war truth is the first casualty". In this case, as in Pearl Harbor, truth may have been sacrificed to justify the starting of a war. or perhaps- “God is not averse to deceit in a just cause.”

I think it's paraphrased from Those Who Remain

It seems like every spring the outfitters put people out on the Elk at near flood stage and every year there are a couple more deaths or several near disasters.

Graphite is kinda brittle material and at least in fly rods any bump or bang on the outside may result in damage/spalling to the inside of the rod, not visible from the outside, that causes later failure. A fly hook colliding with the rod on a bad forward cast is said to have caused many fly rod failures. I can imagine that stepping on a rod does it no good, but, simply banging it sharply against any hard object puts the rod at risk. Articles I've read indicate that if the rod breaks into two pieces, it is almost always the result of a previous impact. It's also said that if the rod breaks at 12-18" from the tip that it's from high sticking and that if it breaks in several places at the same instant it is from overloading. Anytime I see someone with more than one rod out, I just assume that he is trying to get them broken so he can have an excuse to buy new. I've only broken 12-15 rods over ~60 years though so I haven't yet discovered all the ways to get it done.

We lost our freedom and the constitution on that day, but gwb came out of it a hero with the best rehearsed speech he ever made, maybe the only articulate speech he ever made. So there is always a silver lining for someone.

So the poster is listed as "guest" with no profile, maybe no longer a member? And the post says "sold", with never another post regarding it, why do people keep asking if the guy who ain't here no more still has the land he sold? or am I missing something?

If you don't understand their language, how do you know that they are Amish? Might they be Polish, or Armenian? Kurds?

Are ships backed up along the west coast waiting to off load really production shortages ?

I see them all as 'tourist traps' with the emphasis on decor rather than angling. I'd buy online from them sometimes but that webstite just bogs down this old desktop and stops up the country internet connection.

I've always found it hard to buy at Bass Pro. The only interested help is at the entrance wanting to get you signed up for credit cards. Then try finding a sales person. Not much I'm interested in either, 90% of the store being clothes, other 90% being boats and the tackle being lots of the same stuff with very little variety. They have some guns but I don't need those and the archery section is like the fly section- never any staff. Kids gave me a gift card there a few years ago and I made at least a dozen trips to the Rogers store before finely just buying something I didn't want to use the card up. I like to walk through it every month or so just to reinforce the need to buy online. Ratty dead animals every where you look too. And the website is the absolute worst I've ever found. Cabela's website worked good until BP took over and now it is just as bad. But they are still in business and getting bigger.

I think that's a misunderstanding, you can "guide" any where in Mo. with no license except your fishing permit. In Ar. you need the $25 permit. The USCG paper is just to hire out your boat to haul passengers, well any commercial use, but in relation to fishing and guiding it's the passengers for hire. If it's your boat and you charge your passengers, you need the paper whether you guide or not, and ifs it's not your boat and/or you don't charge them for the ride you don't. But I'm not an attorney. Does the USCG mention guiding specifically? at all?

But it's not legal anywhere in the USA under Federal laws, and they trump State laws, if you use it you are an illegal user. The USA does not recognize medical use. That said most law breakers are used to telling lies and breaking laws so no big deal to swear to another little perjury.

Wrench, I don't see that the Captains license applies to being a guide at all, a guide just shows the way, and as you say lots of folks could. That paper simply allows the captain to charge a fee for the use of his boat. Rent the boat to the punter and the safety/insurance/liability is on him, isn't it? isn't that how marinas operate? So, if the guide has any state guiding license, and as far as I can find out Mo. doesn't have one, that guide can charge a fee for the guide part of it. Say you have the boat and I know the lake, you can pay me to show you the way to the fish, teach you about the lake and to give you instruction, and neither of us has crossed the law. I'm providing knowledge not hiring out my boat to carry passengers. Hiring of the boat is key, and even then I could hire out a non-motorized boat with you as passenger, such as the drift boats, or a poled skiff. The Coast Guard has the responsibility for safe boating on Federal waters but they have no authority over the fish and game laws, that is a state thing. USFWS does have authority over fish and game in certain Federal lands like Refuges and Parks, but the fish and wildlife are generally property of the state and the state makes the rules. Feds can also make requirements for use of land or water owned/controlled by the Federal government, such as use fees. Many people see guide as meaning something more than just guide, it's often confused with outfitter, and other times with instructor, or charter boat operator.