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That does not say why you and others chose yak over canoe, I missed that part when web shopping. It seemed that at 3-400# capacity the yaks are canoe length and weight, or maybe I didn't find the right yak? Given that each weighed ~same and both same length, why pick one or the other as your only boat? (for now we'll say that each cost $12000, and that isn't a factor)

The pen deer folks will tell you the MDC is over selling CWD and that it is harmless and has always been here, I've read their arguments. I'm not overly educated and not very good with computers and I managed to find lots of scientific stuff about CWD and its kindred Transmissible spongiform encephalopathies TSE: Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, Kuru, scrapie, bovine spongiform encephalopathy, Transmissible mink encephalopathy, Feline spongiform encephalopathy etc. Anyone can if they will spend an hour trying to. If Dablemont can't and can't show such references as sources, then he is a blubbering idiot and not worth this conversation. Scrapie in sheep has been around since history started and we don't get goofy about eating mutton or lamb or wearing wool. Scrapie is very likely the origin of CWD, sheep and deer in same pen at research facility and then the deer released back into the wild... But because of the wild cow disease and panic a few years ago there is a belief that spongiform encephlopathy might jump from cervids to humans and it is a possibility, thus the concern. All those years of scrapie not jumping to humans is the basis for statements that CWD should not be of concern. My observation, MDC would rather err on the side of caution than get blamed later for caving in to the deer farmers. If you think MDC and AFGC compare favorably with any other state's fish and game, you are correct. Most other states depend on politics in all game and fish policies rather than science. o, and the good news is the most recent studies seem to show CWD can be transmitted even by grass growing from dirt that was contaminated by urine or feces as much as 20-30 years later, prions don't die in fire or rain or chemical application. Not much can be done except watch and study and destroy deer, for now.

I don't know why they don't stock the Meramec, but Black is in the list of four rivers stocked. Does the Meramec have native or naturalized Walleye?

If LD addressed his fiction to the captive cervid industry mocarp, you could argue that he has a point, I don't doubt that pen hunters pay more than wild hunters but I don't think those $millions referenced actually go to any state agency. Any nonresident hunter can hunt for a Mo. whitetail trophy for $225. The owners of captive cervids actually sell the pen raised deer not the MDC. I don't guess I ever heard of Mr LD before, but the stuff quoted in this thread puts him in the "there he goes again" & "ignore him, maybe he'll quit" categories. I wonder that his ravings are printed, if they are? maybe all on the web? Hunting hogs, or as the USDA does coyotes, by air is about the least effective and most expensive control method there is by all the reports I've read yet it is still used often. I'd guess there is some strong support of aerial gunning by people that control the funding or it would stop. The main justification for the government (state or federal) killing nuisance animals on private land is that they may use that land as a breeding factory and they or their offspring will eventually be on public land. USDA often charges for their services, I'm not certain that they always do. Trapping and night vision shooting over bait are by far the most productive control by professional private operators. Snaring is a very effective feral hog control in some states, but because of stray dog protection laws snares cannot be used in MO. edit afterthought) The captive cervid growers actually tried to get their "deer" declared domestic livestock a few years ago, so that MoDept of Ag would regulate them rather than MDC . I wonder if a domestic rack could qualify as a trophy deer?

I took it as this; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_pill_and_blue_pill

Pond Prowler looks like the original sit on top kayak to me.

What tips the decisions to kayak vs solo canoe? When you get into big man sizes it looks to me like the canoe is a better option.

saw one working Shoal Creek Saturday, he pulled in just as a canoe landed and went straight to the canoe, talked and straight away left; almost like it was arranged, never checked anyone else..

I don't understand how ~7 gallons of gas could fill any car. But 4# test lands giant saltwater fish it should work for them suckers and I caught a lot of trout on 8# test a while ago, but they were rainbow stockers and ate 6" long night crawlers so, I don't know if it means anything.

Possibly the same storm that caught me on my way home from RRSP, around 6:30- 7pm; if so that was the fastest traveling storm in my memory, it appeared to cover 10-12 miles in less than a minute and it over took me between Cassville and Washburn, as I was driving south ~55mph, I estimated the storms ground travel at more than 60mph. I had not heard any warnings and none of the people I talked to at the park mentioned any. The sky was clear to the far side of yonder one moment and the storm was all over me the next. As to the warnings you all mention were they standard Tstorm possibility warnings that every one ignores or were they "TAKE SHELTER NOW" warnings? I can easily see with how fast the Washburn Prairie turned black how an operator making a 15 minute turnaround could have looked at the sky and made the call to go out. It is a tragedy and the families need our prayers, but let's not convict the operators with out more information. As to the PFD, they will never save a life if they are not strapped on before the wreck happens and almost no one wants to wear one until the wreck is over. Law allowing adults to decide is fine, but I think if I was a commercial operator I would over ride that law and make it mandatory. Those boats would be sort of a trap for the average non- diver if upside down, even with PDF or maybe more so because of PDF floating you up against the inside of the tub?

This the same guy that said he took drugs and pooped his pants to avoid the draft? The entertainer?

Boy oboy, what the Army and Marines could do with such knowledge. Save them billions on logistic support if it was possible to live off what you can carry.

http://www.crankwraps.com/product-p/cw-halfoz-red-eye.htm http://www.crankwraps.com/category-s/136.htm?searching=Y&sort=13&cat=136&show=300&page=1 https://www.facebook.com/Crank-Wraps-141028846509588/ I got no idea what these are but when I searched your terms this stuff came up.

Mountain Home and Mountain View are different places about 50 miles apart. If I was looking for a new home I might look around Harrison Ar., rather than either of those towns. Harrison may not even be on the list of desirable places, I don't know, but the question comes to who voted a town best and what the criteria is, for example I live within five miles of Bella Vista and would never put it above the 30% mark on places I'd want to live. Any town is less desirable to me than any rural area near a town. A thought about taxes, in this area (extreme SW MO & NW AR) taxes are considerably higher in AR. than in MO, this relates to both property taxes and sales taxes. About fishing, there is lots of it in the Ozarks. What part of Oregon? I once lived in Harney County?

I think it's English or highfalutin or such to fork left handed because of the right hand being the knife hand. Ambidextrous folks can use the knife with either hand.

I'm slow this morning, retarded to crank a baitcaster with right hand or retarded to crank a spin rig with left hand? or retarded for using one or the other? I remember back when I was about ten and messing around with Dad's bait rigs, wondering why right handed men used reels designed for left handers, then I got a 333 and found out they were all designed for left handed people too. I finely got a Diawa spinning reel about 1970 that cranked with the left hand, so that you didn't have to use it upside down. Stanley tape measures were designed by the same guy, if you hold the tape in your left hand so you can use the pencil with the right hand, all the numbers are upside down. Most tape measures are meant for left hand pencil use, but fifty years of using them makes the numbers look normal upside down. I decided that most people that invent are left handed people and the righties just adapt and aren't smart enough to change things.

I go for years and years without seeing an agent and then get checked three times in one day, I think Kristine was having a slow day and just wanted to keep her game up. She checked me twice the next day at the same hole. Several years til the next encounter with a different Agent, but I have this one in my cell phone-book.

Everybody had more time in the '60s, there was always time for a march, or a be in, or a love in, or an assassination, or a riot; or a barely paid trip to a foreign place with a new haircut. '68 was a busy year.

Put two anglers together and let them watch each other, divided live well or better yet since competitors are judging each other immediate release after pic and measure. No transported, lost fish.

yes, and I've had a littl'un (8"SMB) take just as I hit the lever and it get jerked into the sky.

Maybe the grand-kids out there planing revolution now? Hoffman-1936-1989, Rubin-1938-1994.. both kinda old to be student protesters in '68 at the Democratic National Convention.

Surely no angler would cheat?

I had forgotten about those people -per urbandictionary.com " Term created by Abbie Hoffman and Jerry Rubin in the mid-1960s to refer to "members" of the Youth International Party (YIP!). The YIP! was dedicated to merging New Left activism and the hippie counterculture to create a revolution that would be both personal and political--as well as fun. Yippies tended to gather in large cities, particularly in Manhattan's Lower East Side, where Rubin and Hoffman both lived during the 1960s. Yippies rejected all -isms, including socialism and anarchism, in favor of the motto of "Do your own thing"--i.e., don't conform to a specific system of belief but rather be an individual. At the same time, collective action was at the root of Yippie activism, and Yippies participated in "be-ins" (normally associated with hippies) and other collective gatherings....."

If a trophy fish is 8# now and we manage to get millions (or even dozens) of 8#ers by banning rod and reel fishing (or even barrel shooting of fish, whatever it takes) and by manipulating genetics or force feeding the fry; what will be a trophy fish then? Will there even be a trophy size when all fish reach the max size and age? What sort of person wants to live in the midst of long dead animals, anyway? and if you don't stuff it, how can it be a trophy rather than just a fish story? And what will become of all the "record" fish when all fish become record size? MOPanfisher may be onto the solution.

Ones I used wound the spring as line was pulled from the reel while fishing; important to pull of a few feet of line and release the spring tension, then pull off more line to cast and fish with. If the tension is not released with some line out, the rewind will suck the fly all the way to the reel resulting in either a broken rod tip or leader with possible injury. I liked them for wading fast water for bass because of the ease of handling stripped in line, the draw backs are they won't hold much line and they are heavy. The spring alone weighs about what a heavy fly rod does or more. And I had to cut an 8wt line in half to use the auto reel. Perrine , Martin, Shakespeare and Pflueger are automatic reels that I have seen or used in a past life. Check the online auction they may run from $5 to a hundred or so in value. I think there is still Pflueger version made.