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Want to make sure the ice isn't made with city water or the chlorine, fluoride etc will show up when they get Quincy to do the forensics. But it shouldn't be to hard to get 8oz/cup down a whopper.

They got air brakes to stop them? I don't get how they can be safe over land it there is no means of stopping them. Over water I can see, stop the engine and it drops into the water, might be a little rough at 35mph, but mostly still safe; on land maybe not.

You don't think that a chunk of wet marabou in that closed box won't just wet everything else?

I find there are a lot of things that I don't do a often as I used to. Fishin is just one of them.

I would think they could be fed to hogs, made into pet food, or converted to fertilizer economically and I'm surprised they haven't been. I had kinda assumed that catching them economically in quantity must be a problem?

He is a felon, it's probable that he has a lawyer on retainer.

It would show up on a metal detector as would lead, but a pound of worms or a dozen ice cubes might not.

Surprising that they certified it prior to investigating it, seems like investigation would be a part of the certification. The cheater should have destroyed the evidence given that much time if he wanted the record so bad. "It fried up real good" and he would still have that record. As to "can any weight be trusted now" question, how do we know that 1964 fish wasn't just as full of lead? Any time there is a contest, there will likely be cheater.

Wasn't all the fresh water was frozen except in the tropics? and all the fishes had to live in the salt except those man eaters in the Amazon?

It's all in how you cook them, ain't it? them probably weren't bled out properly.

The hippers are to keep the brogues from getting full of the BS found in fish stories. call 'em "safety equipment"

it's a fishin forum, should always have your hip boots on.

Does "Block User" make their posts disappear when quoted too?

If there is any problem with the bass population, the tournaments should be stopped and banned for at least a year or three before any "supplementation" is considered. In any water that has natural reproduction of a native species, stocking should be a last ditch effort in restoration. Manage the population by limitation of harvest first. Count any fish taken into possession as harvested.

Ah, then there is always something I like on each day, so the question might be "best affordable lodging nearby?"

is one day better than the other two? 21-22-23?

His hat brim is too wide for a working cowboy, 2.75"-3" was most common when I was young, about evenly divided between fedoras and open roads. That wide brim would set most ranch horses off, if the wind didn't get it first. Those big hats always make think of barrel racers. What we see mostly today are "Western Wear" in hats or boots, designed for people that want to look 'western' at the night club. Finding campsites every night would be the most challenging part of a long distance ride like that. Stabling or a picket area for the animals, and the route would need to bypass all medium and larger towns. There are a few ferry options for crossing the big river, I'd probably pick Dorena-Hickman; they have horse rates, so are probably use to carrying horses safely. For that kind of trip, I'd likely be wearing packer boots rather than cowboy boots. His old nag ain't likely to jump out from under or start every day with a rodeo.

@DutchI've noticed before that "pork eaters from back east" as the old boys in the Great Basin, and other western ranges, were prone to call Midwesterners, often confuse "Drug Store Cowboys" and "Goat Ropers" and even "Bull Riders" with cowboys. Men that "can ride a stool better than a bronc". Bunkhouse cowboys did sometimes get married, usually in their 30's, but that almost always meant they had stopped riding and moved to "town". Become clerks, mechanics or tradesmen.

Not exactly the part of the world associated with open range cattle and 100,000A+ ranches. The only times those people drove a vehicle was to change jobs or go to a rodeo. Plus maybe three, four times a year drive 200 miles to a dance. I seriously doubt there any of them left. I've heard that most BLM and NF land is closed to grazing these days.

I spent some time around cowboys in Id., Or. and Nv. in the '50s and '60s and I don't think any real cowboy would own a truck. If a truck is needed the ranch will furnish it. If a hand owned wheels at all it was most often a Lincoln or Cadillac. Something big enough to sleep in between jobs, powerful enough to pull a one horse trailer when rodeoing and fancy enough to match those 16" high boots. Not many ever got divorced either, because almost all were single men. When I left the ranch in '70, pay was $250-#300/month, not enough to interest many future exwives. But real cowboys back then wore custom fitted handmade boots spent two months wages on a single pair

I don't suppose the states are at all concerned about the bass fisheries in that pond if they are still allowing culling and transporting of fish by the tourney anglers. If there is any concern about the numbers and size of fish, stopping culling and relocation of bass should be a priority. As it is the minimum size could be 6" and not have any real effect. The states could also regulate or ban the use of electronics instead of encouraging it. I see no concern by either the states or the anglers.

That would make a lot round balls for a black powder shooter. Approximately 1140 in .50 or 1500 in .44, but I've pretty much stopped shooting or hunting and have a good supply. About a 1000 half oz sinkers for a bait fisher.

Weight/length of an individual fish must vary somewhat with time of year, abundance of forage, prespawn, postspawn etc.? I've caught fish of about equal length and depth that varied a lot in thickness and therefore weight. Both those fish would be very large for the species and .8oz could be the difference of a single meal. The article is rather vague, but it seems that KDWP issued a statement in Mar. that the fish was a new record, one would presume that they had seen enough evidence at that time to make such a determination. I would think a KDWP agent had seen and measured the fish or it had been weighed on a certified scale, etc. And the reason for confiscation is so unclear/unexplained as to be "because we can". A lot of stuff that we can only guess at, but it seems fishy.

Some online searching indicates up to 2.5% (possibly more in a home freezer due to time element) weight loss to dehydration when freezing fresh caught fish. 2% weight loss would put that 4.07 pounds down to 3.99# and 2.5% would reduce it to 3.97# either below the 4.02# of the previous record. Using calculations for weight- 18" L & 14" G - LxGxG/800= 4.41# (fat fish) or LxGxG/900=3.92# (thin fish) So the fish should be in the ~4# neighborhood. It probably was a record breaker when caught but 45 days in the freezer would have changed that. I'm thinking someone in KDWP had some reason to keep the old record in place and counted on dehydration to make the report look falsified. Why else wait over 6 weeks to examine the fish?