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Saw this on NPR this morning. From the hearing yesterday when Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey was being questioned.

I'll do something similar when fishing a regular nymph rig -- let it drift past, tighten up, swing, load and flip it back upstream. I invented that

One thing is for sure -- there's always an element of personal preference in these discussions. To some extent we're all going to go with what we know, understand and have confidence in...maybe to the detriment of learning something new at times. Sorry if I came across as argumentative. I really just don't see myself jacking with that many flies and probably could have made that point better.

Well, this thread inspired me to get the last of 2016’s gooseberry freezer jam out to thaw. We’ll see how that is tomorrow.

Well, I’m calling a 5-fly setup overkill, even if you’ve got a guide tying that up for you. Do you frequently do it? I tend to fish smaller water and very rarely do two nymphs.

I wouldn’t be able to cast that mess.

It was the weirdest thing. Two gallons of gooseberries—poof!

I’ve never had elderberry jelly, but have had wine made from them. Didn’t get gooseberries this year. Some critter, possibly human, stopped the branches clean one night. There were some broken branches, so it wasn’t birds.

Yeah, not all prescriptions are created equal.

Followed that link. Funny, never heard of the website or most of the brands listed. I would suggest you look to sunglasses discussions on this forum from real guys who fish. No telling what that site is motivated by.

Lots and lots of fish are caught under an indicator. Heck, fish will hit an indicator some times. The top fly in a dry/dropper setup is an indicator, but with a hook. Use as fine a tippet size as you can get away with, and set the lower fly to drift deep with enough split shot to get it down without sinking the dry. Again, I’d suggest reading the Taney reports, of which there are many.

If you’re gonna fish Taney then I’d suggest reading the Taney reports here, which I think are gonna get you into the groove faster. I don’t fish Taney and I use a dry and dropper a lot.

Floated a section on a guide trip in 2015. Hack’s Tackle our of Saratoga. Fairly big water...not sure how wadable it is so I’d suggest you call them or do some research. Encampment River at Hog Park is very nice water and close. Are you staying in Saratoga?

Copy cat! 😄

Did they ever catch the Crane Creek Strangler?

TPNP has chickens too, but I've never seen them.

Seriously, the Tallgrass Prairie National Preserve about 1-1/2 hours west of KC is very cool. Bison were reintroduced there a number of years ago.

One of the things I love about Colorado is seeing the elk way up in the mountains. Or, better yet:

I suspect it's pretty hard to find the "PREV" button in that condition

The Blue Angels were going to perform at Richards Gebaur just south of KC in probably around '93. We were standing at the windows watching them practice and every so often they'd come within site. Then, one came right up 71 Highway pretty low, turned on his side and continued right on up past the bank. He was co close that I gave him the sign and he gave it back. (I flew a Tiger in the 4/slot when I got back from 'Nam.) Boy, that brought back memories!

Been pretty dull cooking-wise around here. Too much eating out or frozen. But, the other night I came home with an idea for chicken salad, which has been sounding good lately. Chicken breast, Hellman's, dijon mustard, cayenne....and here's where it gets weird....capers, a little caper juice, and some diced water chestnuts. Those last two were my idea. Then, I realized I had some grapes so I chopped a few up, added them in and gave it a taste. It needed more capers, juice, salt and a bit more cayenne. Dang! Imma rite this one down! Sorry no picture. Imagine chicken salad with grapes and little green things in it.

It ain't over yet. All three of my babies got introduced to fishing and hunting and got to where they liked doing it. Then teenagery hit -- cars, opposite sex, freedom, college. Haven't been able to pin anybody down for a few years to do about anything, especially fishing or hunting. Then I get a text...'Dad, what kind of fish is this?' Seems ness 2.3 and some buddies went out to a local lake and got into some crappie. And, he wants to go hunting this fall. ness 2.1's boyfriend wants to learn to fly fish... I use the same expression BH did above when I talk about this -- it's planting a seed. And about the best advice I could give to the original poster is to make time to plant that seed. Read your kid and adjust things as you go so that they're having fun. Don't do it too long...bite your lip when they hook the same $%^&* tree limb for the zillionth time...praise their successes and give them some love when they screw up. And, enjoy it while you can.

Well, I'm going to respectfully disagree again -- and no I'm not picking on you. Nobody said there was only one way to cast. The point is, there are better ways to cast, and teaching yourself may not ever get you there. Sure, years of trial and error will get you somewhere, but a teacher or good experienced fly caster can get you there a heckuva lot faster. They'll know the little nuances and teach/correct them -- something you won't get from a book or video. I started out self taught, and read and watched a ton of material. Didn't really have a mentor or teacher in the family or circle of friends. So I did OK but not good for the first few years. The first guide I hired was about 3-4 years in. Since then I've hired a number of them (typically on a family vacation when I had 1 day to fish and wanted the most out of it). Some are better than others, but I've learned something from every one of them. One, in particular, that guided around North CO/RMNP, was really good and I've used him multiple times. One summer I asked him if he'd want to do a trip with my 11-12 year old boys, and he said sure. Before hitting the stream he took us to a park to work on casting. I sat my butt down on a bench to watch but he said get over here -- we're gonna work on your cast too. Anyhoo -- he gave me a couple tips that just made things work better. But, the bigger and better story was what he accomplished with my boys -- at the park, and later on the stream. By the end of that day they were all smiles and pretty much doing everything on their own. After that they told me to mind my own business a couple times, because they had it handled. That was pretty gratifying and they really remember that trip. So, I can tell you from first hand experience that getting some professional help (I mean with fishing) can accelerate learning. And, when you're working with your own kids, it's sometimes especially beneficial to have a non-parent step in because there isn't all the baggage.

I disagree. It’s ok to to help them with tangles and trees and problems at first, IMO. Keep them fishing and increase their odds of catching and make sure it’s fun. Every kid is different too, so tailor your approach.

Have we learned nothing? May I suggest a respite here?