Dutch

That is good to know. I'll call them before I buy.

I've been in touch with guys who have them and say that is something to be that they have to watch. They said it is an easy correction. I don't know as I have never been in a boat with one of them. I just know that I want the electric stow and deploy and use 2d and down all the time.

I am looking at the Ulterra at Marine Repair Center in Springfield. Brad suggested that I would be in my best interest to put a quick connect/disconnect mount on it. In my search to have 2d/side/down on the trolling motor I ran across Precision Sonar's transducer cable holder. They have a video of it on their web site.

If you have the coin go for the Ulterra. It is on my list of things to buy if I can get all of the rigging kinks worked out. I'd love to have one.

Does that include an lss transducer and structure scan box or is it just the head unit?

Day fishing has been tough all summer long for me.

Yep I think you are right. I've looked for them before but never been able to find concentrations. The driving force for me has been the last 2 years when the post spawn bite is to great then they disappear for a couple of months. This summer has been worse than last summer. Maybe I need to visit the rock for a while till things pick back up. It is 20 miles closer for me than Stockton anyway.

I spent about 3 hours driving around looking for shad along the river channels, long points, bluffs, and flats. I really did not find large groups of shad. I worked the area from Hartley Branch to the dam. I even scanned around the coffer dam. This screen shot is about the largest school of shad that I could find and couldn't find any schools that looked like they were being disturbed.

I just saw them listed at Tackle Warehouse.

Thanks for the video. I think I'll go to Stockton and have a look around tomorrow. Keeping to the channel should eliminate a bunch of water.

I can get up to 5000 of them but 1000 is the smallest amount that I can buy. The supplier did not have the light wire 810 hooks. I can normally get them within 24 hours.

I can get you the TKH 810 4/0 but not the lighter wire. I can only get them in 1,000 hook lots. They are a tad over $450/1,000 plus excise tax and shipping. If anyone at TU has them it is apt to be Cadman or smalljaw.

Thanks for the tips guys. Maybe I wasn't as specific as I should have been. What I am wanting to find is similar to what the guides do in the summer on Table Rock where they locate schools of KYS hanging out in say 40' over 100' of water. Stockton doesn't have that kind of depth but I have not been successful locating fish that way. I'm looking for some pointers to help narrow my search.

I am wanting to spend some time off shore on Stockton trying to find schooled fish around shad. I could use a few pointers on what type of water to look at (channel swings, humps, ledges, long points, etc.) I'd also appreciate some screen shots of what you are seeing when you pull up to fish for those suspended fish. If you don't want to post on the open forum please pm me. I'll take anything you have to offer and appreciate it. Summer fish on Stockton have a way of disappearing for me.

If you want to get ahold of a good one then throw a $25 jerk bait. They always seem ready to eat one of them.😎

I have no idea. All of the that I have caught out of streams have been in Flat Creek and James River when I used to float fish and that was before I bought my first glitter sled.

Trophy for my brain is 4# and larger. I catch a lot of smallmouth on Stockton. A 4# only comes along every few years and I have only caught 1 over 4# but it was shy of 5#.

Well is seems that MK is the only one that would work for me. Unfortunately I have some serious coin tied up in Lowrance HDS units so I won't be going that way. I looked at the Xi5. I can not see it being any easier to deploy and stow that what I have so I have lost interest in it. Talking to some reputable sources it seems that Lowrance may be coming out with their own trolling motor in the near future so I guess I'll just wait and see. Thanks for all of the replies.

Prolly is but not as messy. Those things produced fish for me this spring when nothing else would.

I've tried several ways to store them. They won't work in pvc boxes. They warp the boxes with some sort of chemical reaction. I had them and worms stored in tackle bags in their own packages. The went flat and stuck together. A Zman rep said they were too tightly packed. So I pulled them out of the bag and just have them in the bag sleeves in their packages. This seems to be working as long as I keep them rotated to the top of the pile in my boat box.

I am starting to see them on the lake. I don't know if they are self deploy or not, but they definitely are remote controlled. I'm pretty sure that I saw Ducky Doty trolling with Arigs on Bull a few years ago using a trolling motor and sitting at the helm. I saw one guy at Stockton doing that Saturday am and I also saw a guy fishing from his back seat. He pulled a remote out of his pocket to move the boat. I guess I'd better start with a trip to Marine Repair in Spfld and see what Scott and Brad have to say about them. I don't know which way they lean. When George had it he was an MK guy. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ rps glad to hear it was not an equipment failure but an install gone bad.

Will you please elaborate on that statement. I've seen boats on fire on the water. I never want to be in one..

I have been thinking about buying a new trolling motor but haven't kept up with the latest developments. I have been a Motor Guide guy for a long time but may switch. I am running an X5 36 volt it handles anything that I need to do but I fractured 3 ribs and ruptured a lung this past winter. The lung seems fine but the ribs haven't healed well. I can feel them at the end of the day after raising and lowering the trolling motor multiple times. So I guess I am looking at a 36 volt trolling motor that can deploy and stow by itself. I know that they were around several years ago and guys had trouble with them. What are today's like. What kind of features do the different brands offer and how reliable are they. I'd like to hear from guys who have them or guys who have fished in boats with them.

Just remember the faster you go the higher you ride in the water column and the worse it will hurt if you don't make it.🤣

Couldn't come up with an excuse so I had to fish Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and this morning.